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Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by aspenmayer on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:19PM (#31043696)
Secure from PII telemetry phoning home: perhaps, likely better than stock Win10 or even LTSB/LTSC in that regard

Secure in literally any other way: outside the scope of the project

Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by clucas on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:38PM (#31044000)
Do you understand why people might get confused? They don't qualify what they mean by "more secure," and it seems reasonable to criticize the project if their idiosyncratic definition of "secure" actually excludes one of the biggest advances in consumer software security in the last 20 years...
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by hedora on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:04PM (#31044335)
The biggest advance I can think of is using security as an excuse to gather and monetize data.

Different people have different attacker models. I can imagine something like this would be perfect for keeping a mostly airgapped machine to access archives of documents created by Windows. (Or to use legitimately licensed, pre-everything as a service software in perpetuity)

Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by aspenmayer on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:48PM (#31044148)
I’m not a dev on the project, fwiw.

In any case, if you wanted security in the way you describe, how would you justify running Windows 10 at all? The onus isn’t on this project to secure Windows when they had no part in making it insecure to begin with. If Windows were open source, these measures wouldn’t be necessary, and wouldn’t result in less security. This is the current best effort that the devs can do to accomplish their goals. It’s fair to criticize the goal or the results, but issues you’re describing are present in stock Windows 10 to begin with.

I’m sure that some kind of auto build script could be created, so that whenever new Windows Updates are released, a new build is created.

Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by throwmeariver1 on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:37PM (#31043996)
Telemetry is a non issue if your network has a good nat in front… software updates on the other hand…
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by alar44 on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:52PM (#31044199)
>"has a good NAT"

What is a good NAT as opposed to a bad one?

"Dude the DHCP on this network is AWESOME" lol

Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by throwmeariver1 on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:25PM (#31044640)
the configuration? what the fuck is this comment.
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by alar44 on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:31PM (#31044715)
What configuration is there? You're either NATing or you're not. There's no "good". It's on or off. What situations have you been in where you weren't NATing between LAN and WAN?
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by Forbo on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:21PM (#31045997)
Does VPN subnet translation count as NAT? Because I've definitely seen some footguns come from that.... I've also seen instances where poorly configured NATs ended up allowing victims to be used as proxies. So I'd say there are definite security questions to take into account.
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by throwmeariver1 on Friday April 15, 2022 @04:23PM (#31045360)
Oh my that's so cute... not everything runs on a home router. lmao
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by alar44 on Friday April 15, 2022 @04:33PM (#31045486)
I'm not talking about home routers. I'm taking about NAT, which I can tell you don't understand. Toodles.
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by Forbo on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:21PM (#31046003)
Confidently incorrect, see my other comment for some examples.
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by alar44 on Saturday April 16, 2022 @03:29PM (#31055331)
Give me an example of a parameter you need to configure for NAT.
Re:Windows 10 minus the spyware plus added stability and sec... by Forbo on Thursday April 21, 2022 @02:46AM (#31106630)