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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by Markoff on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:10AM (#31038020)
wouldn't be easier just not set internet connection in first place? I don't think TV can hack into secure WiFi network
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by scns on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:13AM (#31038041)
They have been caught trying to connect to unsecured WiFi before.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by rosndo on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:46AM (#31039577)
I bet you aren’t going to be able to provide a source for this.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by emendation on Sunday April 17, 2022 @07:45AM (#31060194)
> I bet you aren’t going to be able to provide a source for this.

They can't, but I do have this saved

https://web.archive.org/web/20191224122714/https://www.reddi...

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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by seanw444 on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:29AM (#31040006)
Even if not, it's only a matter of time before it does happen. Not an if.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by doldols on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:51AM (#31040226)
I suppose the same can be said about your TV turning into a sentient killer robot.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by ben_w on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:17AM (#31038075)
That would be illegal. However people here sometimes report that they connect to any nearby open wifi network even if you don’t explicitly connect them to your own.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by contravariant on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:46AM (#31038257)
Fair, though you might want to make some exceptions at some point. Or prevent it from randomly connecting to an unsecured wifi.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by tjpnz on Friday April 15, 2022 @07:53AM (#31039135)
If they did it sounds like a great way for someone doing something nefarious to get off the hook. Some smart TVs are even able to act as wireless access points.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by pnutjam on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:36AM (#31040064)
Give it an IP with no gateway, or a bad gateway.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by peoplefromibiza on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:14AM (#31038050)
they can still hack into open networks around you and monitor the SSIDs to get a sense of your position.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by lsaferite on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:48AM (#31039587)
Amazon Sidewalk is what worries me for the long term.
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Re:It’s Still Stupidly, Difficult to Buy a ‘Dumb’ TV by Markoff on Friday April 15, 2022 @07:46AM (#31039078)
That sounds illegal and awaiting lawsuit to me, device connecting to unsecured network by itself without my knowledge doing there whoever knows.

Imagine my neighbor has unsecured WiFi network set for himself, I'm pretty sure he could call police on anyone connected to his network abusing his connection just because it's not locked.

By this logic you can steal unlocked car with key in engine or unlocked bike and that's what these TV would be doing.

You would be probably excused if TV done by itself, but it would land the brand lot of negative publicity and you could try to reimburse defense lawyer expenses on them. They would probably argue you agreed with terms of service when first launching TV, so don't do that if you want dumb TV.

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