Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by rhn_mk1 on Thursday April 14, 2022 @02:54PM
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Which is a perfectly reasonable claim. Rejecting it out of hand doesn't make anyone wiser.
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Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by jakelazaroff on Thursday April 14, 2022 @04:17PM
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Okay, but you’re acting as though it’s the same claim as “Twitter has a lot of power”.
I’ve explained my reasoning against the utility claim. If you want to defend it, do so. It might be reasonable, but you haven’t offered anything other than substituting it with a different argument.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by rhn_mk1 on Thursday April 14, 2022 @04:34PM
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It's not the same claim as being indispensible, but it's the same claim as being extremely vowen into everyday life. I think that claim reflects what is actually being discussed better. What I offer is not a defense of the claim, but a request to consider the claim seriously.
In the public utility metaphor, utilities were not defined until they became defined. There's no reason to discount a possible category of "utilithing" that shares some properties with the existing one but not others.
It might be that I missed your explanation (was it in a sibling thread?), but in this thread I don't see a consideration for that idea. "They are not so vital" is not an argument against it, but your personal value judgement.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by jakelazaroff on Thursday April 14, 2022 @05:11PM
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It’s in my root comment in this thread. I’m not giving my personal value judgment — it’s the value judgment of the ~75% of adults in the US who don’t use Twitter. It’s a real stretch to say that something less than a quarter of the population uses is “vital” for everyday life. How many Americans do you think go a month without electricity or sewage?
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by rhn_mk1 on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:23AM
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> it’s the value judgment of the ~75% of adults in the US who don’t use Twitter.
So 5% of all adults? Yes, I just made up that number, just like you did.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by jakelazaroff on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:45AM
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Why would I make up a number that’s easily verifiable? https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/04/07/social-media...
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by rhn_mk1 on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:37PM
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You served the wrong number: this is the share of population on Twitter. I asked about the share of non-Twitterers sharing your values.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by jakelazaroff on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:47PM
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If you don’t use Twitter at all, like over three quarters of adults in the US, you de facto don’t think it’s vital for every day life.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by rhn_mk1 on Friday April 15, 2022 @04:28PM
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You seem to think about "vital for every individual" when no one said that but you. There were various weaker versions of "powerful" considered.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
by jakelazaroff on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:11PM
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This discussion isn’t going anywhere; you just keep reusing the same old motte and bailey. Have a nice day!