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Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by ianai on Thursday April 14, 2022 @07:46AM (#31025590)
Hey maybe he’ll finally reveal his true nature in an irrefutable way and society can progress a little.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by WA on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:05AM (#31025765)
No, because he did already plenty of times and there are still a lot of fanboys.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by mschuster91 on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:27AM (#31025969)
The problem is that Musk has legitimately advanced society in a number of ways with each of his adventures. He is a ... very complex person to put it lightly, and even for his legitimate issues and scandals he caused (e.g. blatant ignorance of SEC regulations or calling a rescue diver a pedophile), he still has the achievements on his "good side".
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by kylecordes on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:58AM (#31026361)
I think these two aspects are inexorably intertwined, the same personality trait.

On the plus side, you get first principles thinking, bull in a china shop unstoppability. You get important progress in rocket technology (reuse and radically lower cost per kg delivered). You get electric vehicles that people want to buy, at scale, after decades of slow walking by the rest of the industry.

On the minus side, you get the naive notion that Twitter could be made radically more "free" without turning into a cesspool that loses the bulk of its mainstream audience.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by JaimeThompson on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:49AM (#31027738)
Musk with a lot of help of others and a lot of government subsidies you mean. The same subsidies he now things aren't needed, that others don't need subsidies because he doesn't need them anymore. Note this is based on his public comments, not his actual actions as his actions show he still loves subsides.

I suggest that someone who can spend 40 billion of a social media platform doesn't need taxpayers to give him quite as much assistance as he gets.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by mschuster91 on Friday April 15, 2022 @04:31AM (#31037812)
> Musk with a lot of help of others and a lot of government subsidies you mean

Yeah, but unlike Boeing/ULA and others who just milked the government for its cash and lobbied for further pork all the fucking time while delivering shit, Musk's leadership actually made real progress out of the cash they got from the government.

> The same subsidies he now things aren't needed, that others don't need subsidies because he doesn't need them anymore.

What Musk has realized is that most of the current political and economic leaders aren't interested in progress, only in filling their bank accounts. So why hand out subsidies to people that will only put them to waste anyway? And yes, Musk is also interested in filling his bank account, but it's undeniable he's pushing his people to leave a lasting legacy for society.

Personally, I believe that government subsidies for progressive projects are a good idea in principle, but their allocation should be completely restructured for projects above ~10M dollars: instead of lump sums that are doled out, they should be structured into quarterly payments and clearly tied to reaching milestones. No more "pork projects" that only serve to reelect corrupt politicians.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by ianai on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:13AM (#31025844)
Yeah. Tangentially, I wonder if free speech absolutism can only hold so long as shame still exists in wide enough numbers. Psychopaths occur probably too frequently…
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by nkozyra on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:04AM (#31025755)
Never revealing his "true nature" has been a critical part of his myth building - people tend to fill in the blanks and mold the idea of Elon Musk into their ideal.
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Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by mwint on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:19AM (#31027391)
So you’re assuming his motives based on his skin color? There’s a word for that.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by JaimeThompson on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:50AM (#31027750)
We can assume his motives by making note of his actions and comparing how well they match up to his words.

Often his actions are directly opposite of his words.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by suction on Saturday April 16, 2022 @03:50AM (#31050503)
point out in my sentence where the bad man hurt you?
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by lurker619 on Thursday April 14, 2022 @11:14AM (#31028021)
The previous VP engg of twitter was also a white guy from south africa. (mike montano)
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by SV_BubbleTime on Thursday April 14, 2022 @11:13AM (#31028001)
How much time have you spent in South Africa?

When I was there I never talked to a single British or Afrikaans that I would ever describe as white supremacist, or even racist. Everyone of them at some point voted ANC, mostly in Mandela‘s time.

However, going through Durban, I saw the dead remains of Namibian immigrants who were just necklaced in a almost 100% black area. Almost all the murder or violence there is white aggressors. I was forced out of Escort one day for being white. And our car was attacked by bottles and rocks in Mooi River, very presumably because we were the only white people around, although I didn’t ask specifically.

Slandering someone you don’t know as white supremacist because they are a South African white, is really messed up.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by SV_BubbleTime on Thursday April 14, 2022 @03:36PM (#31032204)
Can’t edit.

Almost none of the violence in Durban was white aggressors.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by ianai on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:16AM (#31025878)
Is there much of a difference?
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by licebmi__at__ on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:11AM (#31025814)
If sending a car to space out of spite didn’t reveal his true nature to his followers, I’m not sure what will.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by panick21_ on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:13AM (#31025835)
> out of spite

What are you even talking about?

The car was just a mass simulator. They had to pick something, why not make it something fun?