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Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by bitwize on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @08:06PM (#31021885)
s/SF's/America's/g

I mean, this is what happens when you have a two-party system and one party is so rife with grift and corruption that the government becomes little more than a ponzi scheme to line the incumbents' pockets.

But you daren't oust those incumbents, because the other party is the same... plus Nazis.

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by rufus_foreman on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @08:47PM (#31022140)
SF does not have a two-party system.

SF at this point in time exists solely to explain why you should have an n-party system, n > 1.

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by Barrin92 on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:24PM (#31022403)
I don't think this is a party issue as much as a broader cultural issue because in my experience you can extend 'America' to 'The Americas' rather than the United States specifically.

What Paul Graham is using that picture for is in my experience visible across the entire American continent and uniquely so. I've been to poor countries (comparably to the US) in the ME like Jordan when a quarter(!) of the population where refugees. It's just as corrupt of a place as anywhere else, but there was little fear of violent gun crime or violence in general as you have in bad parts of cities across the Americas.

You're pointing to the two party system, another commentator is pointing out that SF is a one party dystopia, PG is lashing out at the far-left but in Vietnam they have a literal one party communist government and that country feels perfectly safe so I really don't think political details is where the problem's at.

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by systemvoltage on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @08:46PM (#31022139)
There are also people that exaggerate everything into either A) Woke B) Nazis.

That's all I see on Twitter. Slightest conservative view, may be want to promote apprenticeships, hard work ethics and desire to have a solid rule of law? You're a Nazi. Want to promote unisex bathrooms and climate change measures? You're straight up woke, soy boy from SF that wants to ride on Vespas and reads CRT books before bed.

These people are the problem.

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by ss108 on Thursday April 14, 2022 @05:25PM (#31033510)
I think promoting unisex bathrooms might merit that label lol, that's more than a slightly left view.
Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by olliej on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:51PM (#31022566)
The fact that you think this indicates you are part of the problem.

I see plenty of conservative view points on twitter that no one complains about. What I see is occasional bouts of people making sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or just generally bigoted comments. Then claiming that people calling them out are attacking them because they're conservative.

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by evocatus on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @10:04PM (#31022646)

    Noun

    bigot (plural bigots)

        One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, _religions_, politics, etc. [1]
Set the pyre ablaze; you shall burn for your hypocrisy and self-righteous heresy [2].

[1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bigot#English

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30634872#30636389

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by olliej on Thursday April 14, 2022 @12:47AM (#31023510)
not sure why you highlighted religions. Something being a "religion" isn't a get out of bigotry free card.

I didn't make any comment suggesting a narrow minded devotion to any particular viewpoint. What I called out was the claim that making the "Slightest conservative view" -> "You're a Nazi". I live in the Bay Area, I work in tech, and there are plenty of conservatives at my office who somehow manage to talk about their beliefs without being called nazis. The classic case of people accusing some "conservative" of being a nazi is when a racist, homophobe, transphobe, etc makes a racist, homophobic, or transphobic comment and gets called out for it.

Re [2] I appreciate that you went trawling through my comments and then linked to me ... questioning whether libertarian members of congress were really uninterested in governmental overreach given the strong push for christian laws? Seriously, you went to the effort to trawl, why that particular comment?

Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by evocatus on Thursday April 14, 2022 @02:42AM (#31024017)
What are your thoughts on Sam Harris, and in particular his positions on Islam [1]? Are you aligning with alt-right ideology?

How is Christianity, or any religion for that matter, germane to the linked discussion?

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-ri...

    But it may be said that very little proof is required in a charge of this nature, since it takes very little argument to expose a person's guilt; for it is said in the Canon de Haereticis, lib. II, that a man makes himself a heretic if in the least of his opinions he wanders from the teaching [...]

    - Malleus Maleficarum
Re:SF's government is uniquely broken by olliej on Thursday April 14, 2022 @03:21AM (#31024218)
I'm unsure what my thoughts on his positions on Islam are - it's sounds like he feels he went into islamophobia territory, in which case I'm going to take the headline as implying he got out of whatever extremist alcove he got trapped in and that he thinks that that is a good outcome.

> How is Christianity, or any religion for that matter, germane to the linked discussion?

The comment you dug up was using the example of libertarian ideologues protecting people from encroachment by the government. Libertarian politicians in the US are a conservative bloc and fairly consistently enforcing their conservative beliefs on others, so I was calling out the inaccuracy of "Outside of a few ideological libertarians".

Personally, I agree with you: religion should not be a part of people's day-to-day lives outside of interpersonal relationships. No one's religious belief should have any impact on the rights or ability of anyone else. The problem is when people try to claim that legally recognizing the existence of different cultural groups is somehow forcing them to change their religious beliefs, and more importantly failure to acknowledge those other groups is not a direct attack on rights of the victims.