Re:Hetzner Cloud – Data loss incident
by jamal-kumar on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @01:14PM
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If that's your standard for a garbage data centre... hmmm
Yeah I've seen way, way worse. Stuff like power cables zip tied to network cables and fibre lines. DUST. delerict hardware just sitting everywhere.
This is nice. What are you looking for, IBM dudes in white shirts running around?
Re:Hetzner Cloud – Data loss incident
by brokenodometer on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @01:30PM
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I just watched the whole thing and thought it looked really cool! Seems like a scrappy and self-reliant company that is focused on cost effectiveness and efficiency.
Could you tell us some of the red flags you see in this video? Considering it is a low cost hoster it looks fine to me, but I am not an expert.
Re:Hetzner Cloud – Data loss incident
by singingboyo on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:50PM
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Looks like standard machines and not really servers, but there's nothing wrong there. Fairly clean wiring, no random cables, etc etc. HDD testing is a little sketchy, but they need to be quick-swapped, so it makes sense.
Ever been in a firewall/router manufacturers R&D/QA lab room? Those are so, so much worse. This is heaven by comparison.
Re:Hetzner Cloud – Data loss incident
by throwaway71271 on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @01:25PM
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looks pretty good
depends how localized the fire extinguishers are and how the power is distributed which is hard to see from the video
not sure what you expect, using 1-2U boxes or blades or something wont change the setup that much, it pretty much boils down to 'how many machines will die in the same time on power/fire' and how can we cool them as cheap as possible.
I've seen far worse. That said, the compute density is pretty low and the gear is rather older than what you would expect, they clearly are not optimizing for power efficiency but for capital efficiency, which means that as long as they can operate a box profitable they'd rather add more buildings than upgrade their servers. Interesting thermal arrangement, I wonder how well this would work in a fire, it looks like a giant chimney to me but maybe there is some secret sauce.
Hetzner has been traditionally renting dedicated servers for their customers - this might still be main part of their business.
Re:Hetzner Cloud – Data loss incident
by Psychotherapist on Thursday April 14, 2022 @05:32AM
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This is also not their "state-of-the-art" DC. FSN is one of the older ones, I'd be interested in a tour of one of their Helsinki DC's which should be newer
Re:Hetzner Cloud – Data loss incident
by native_samples on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @04:02PM
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FWIW if you focus on the modern areas, Google datacenters don't look much different.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM