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Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by chekibreki on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:23AM (#31014342)
I hate how the correlation between income/country of origin and fraud probability is discarded as „racist“ by at least Amnesty International.

Maybe we should first do a correlation and causality analysis and see what it yields instead of closing our eyes because of PC?

Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by jacquesm on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:33AM (#31014451)
That analysis has been done and the conclusions are devastating for the tax office.

https://www.consultancy.nl/nieuws/39000/pwc-belastingdienst-... (dutch)

Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by orangepurple on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:47AM (#31014616)
Devastating? I don't see anything devastating in the article you linked. Perhaps you can point it out? The language is very weak.

> PwC considers it plausible that the people who ended up on the blacklist on the basis of appearance or nationality were disadvantaged as a result. Like others on the list, they presumably did not qualify for smooth debt restructuring, debt forgiveness, or a personal payment arrangement. Unlike in the allowance affair, according to PwC, the list played no role in the assessment of income tax returns.

aannemelijk vermoedelijk

They can't point to a single case in which this happened?

Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by jacquesm on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:54AM (#31014690)
You could of course start with the first paragraph:

"Bij het inschatten van frauderisico’s beoordeelde de Belastingdienst zeker tientallen mensen op hun nationaliteit en uiterlijk, zo blijkt uit onderzoek van PwC. Zo kwamen de mensen terecht op de Fraude Signaleringsvoorziening (FSV), beter bekend als de zwarte lijst."

Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by croes on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @10:38AM (#31015175)
So what could cause a causality between income/country of origin and fraud probability?

Is fraud genetic? I don't think so, so it's only a correlation at most.

Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by danamit on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @12:34PM (#31016778)
Income and social mobility might corralled with fraud.

Country of origin might cause low income and low social mobility.

Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by Jensson on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @10:51AM (#31015345)
Unintentional fraud is probably way higher among immigrants, it is hard to avoid "fraud" when filling in forms if you don't understand all the rules, even worse if the form isn't even in your native language.
Re:Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks o... by einpoklum on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @11:13AM (#31015640)
There is no "Unintentional fraud". If it's unintentional, it's a mistake. See also:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud