I'd buy an updated Element in a minute. Meanwhile I'm holding on to the one I have. And I'd never hose it down.
I’ve always assumed the Element was a victim of tightening CAFE standards. The design was incompatible with the computer-optimized slipstream profile manufacturers use to tack on a few fractional MPG, and its market positioning was incompatible with the price level required for inefficient vehicles to offset the discount on cheap econo-lozenges.
You could probably revive it as an BEV, although with shitty range due to its aerodynamics.
They did in fact update the engine (at least once). I tried finding one here in Europe but they are pretty much impossible to come by unless you want to import one from the USA which has a ton of problems for a car that is not officially carried here.
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element
by numbsafari on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @06:52PM
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I put 250k miles on an '08 before, very reluctantly, selling it to a kid for his first vehicle.
The '08 had been "updated".
But they never offered it with factory installed nav, despite having a very "ahead of its times" sound system. It also had terrible gas mileage.
Sure, it was less aerodynamic than a Mac truck, but Honda could have revisited it.
Much like my dearly departed Vanagon, there's nothing new like it on the market.
I have a VW Transporter that started life as a taxi cab. 9 seater, rubberized floor. I put a longer 5th gear in it and removed the LNG system (ridiculous taxes otherwise), it's pretty economic and can haul a ton of stuff. The whole neighborhood here uses it :)
It being an ex taxi bi-fuel I bought it super cheap with low mileage.
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element
by bloomingeek on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @06:31PM
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I agree, the Element was a great vehicle, I think it was a little overpriced, but it is a Honda. I would love an updated version now that I can afford one.
> vehicles designed by Boomers for millennials
As I recall, they were designed by Boomers for younger versions of themselves, and priced for Boomers wanting to feel young again. That, of course, necessitated ads theoretically aimed at millennials
That’s blasphemy right there.
It’s the best of a group Of vehicles designed by Boomers for millennials that ended up only being bought by Boomers, since discontinued for no good reason.
Honda’s major sin here was not updating it with modern electronics or a more efficient engine.
It is smaller than the current CR-V.
Such a shame.