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Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by chrisseaton on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:45PM (#31008612)
I've been hosing out my Defenders and wading them above the door seals for years and there's no significant rust yet. They have rubber floor mats instead of upholstery. But they are maintained professionally.
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by uuyi on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:56PM (#31008716)
You won’t find it until your foot goes through something or something falls off. I had a 1990 defender 90 which was 8 years old and the bulkhead was invisibly rotten in various places. That got very expensive very quickly. A friend has a more modern 110 that’s only 6 years old and has the same problem.

This is not an issue in some areas and dry climates as a rule but in the UK it sucks owning one.

I don’t own one now. I drive a little French go cart then I use my legs for off road. They last longer, don’t go rusty and run on dried fruit and sandwiches.

Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by KennyBlanken on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @10:39PM (#31010638)
This is why I laugh when I see 90's era defenders selling for $80k in the states.
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by richardfey on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:42AM (#31011846)
Are you Remi Gaillard?
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by uuyi on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @04:01AM (#31012213)
I disclaim all responsibility for chucking bananas out of my French go cart
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by iancmceachern on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @09:54PM (#31010410)
Aren't most parts of land rover bodies aluminum?

https://www.thrillist.com/cars/9-things-you-didn-t-know-abou...

Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by uuyi on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @04:02AM (#31012216)
Yeah. They chassis and bulkhead is made of steel though. This tends to rust very quickly when bonded to aluminium parts.
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by Tabular-Iceberg on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:19AM (#31012617)
> This tends to rust very quickly when bonded to aluminium parts

Isn’t it the other way around? Aluminium has a lower reduction potential than iron, so the aluminium should be the first to go. Even lower than zinc, which uses the same mechanism in sacrificial anodes and galvanisation.

I once had the idea of attaching “sacrificing cathodes” made of iron to aluminium beverage cans to make them go away faster when discarded in the environment, but that just causes more problems than it solves, so it’s better stick with container deposit schemes.

Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by iancmceachern on Thursday April 14, 2022 @03:27PM (#31032088)
That's a super interesting thought, the sacrificial anode thing to break down cans faster. If only there was a mechanism like that we could harness to accelerate the breakdown on plastics.
Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by lb1lf on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @06:15PM (#31008915)
If memory serves - I have never put it to the test - my HZJ78 Land Cruiser owner's manual says wading depth is 700mm (doors closed), 875mm (doors open) - presumably the added depth with doors open is down to the reduced buoyancy.

Part of me really wants to try it out once, though.

Re:Never hose out a Honda Element by chrisseaton on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @06:18PM (#31008937)
I think the new Defender is 900mm doors closed, which is pretty deep!