Impressions from a first-time Mac user

Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by goosedragons on Monday April 11, 2022 @04:31PM (#30994521)

I never got used to it after a year. I wasn't even a "new" Mac user as I'd previously used Jaguar/Panther/Tiger/Leopard as well as Classic and even NeXTStep. But while those were better than XP time has marched on and I don't feel like MacOS improved enough compared to the competition (with regards to window management). If anything should have been Sherlocked it should have been rectangle/magnet etc.

I also feel like Apple cripples mice, it's a very trackpad centered workflow and if you're not using one it suffers. Also they really need to have a separate mouse scroll toggle built in.

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by fiddlerwoaroof on Monday April 11, 2022 @10:38PM (#30997952)

So, I always invert the mouse scroll wheel on Linux now, because the Mac scroll direction just feels right to me. Which is sort of the problem here: macOS’s UI works really well if the paradigm makes sense to you and long-time Mac users often have the same problems “backwards” when they use Linux or windows.

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by goosedragons on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @06:22AM (#31000720)

Did it feel natural to you in 2011? It's not that old of a change. You can get used to it no doubt and I almost feel like it makes sense on trackpads but not so much on scroll wheels. Why fight 10+ years of muscle memory for literally no gain and a bunch of pain everywhere else?

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by fiddlerwoaroof on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:15AM (#31003797)

I adapted to it in about two days, it made sense to me from the very beginning.

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by KerrAvon on Monday April 11, 2022 @07:16PM (#30996445)

what do you mean by "mouse scroll toggle"?

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by FabHK on Monday April 11, 2022 @07:34PM (#30996606)

Maybe "natural" scroll direction vs the old scroll-bar orientation.

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by goosedragons on Monday April 11, 2022 @07:58PM (#30996811)

Yes exactly.

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by gdetassigny on Monday April 11, 2022 @08:14PM (#30996948)

I've seen this mention between comments and the article, but there is such an option! Or am I thinking of something else? If you go to "System Preferences" > Mouse > unclick "Scroll Direction: Natural". Am I missing something?

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by goosedragons on Monday April 11, 2022 @08:31PM (#30997087)

Unless they've changed it really recently you can't have a mouse scroll "unnaturally" and a trackpad "naturally". They're tied together for some reason. You need a 3rd party utility to it.

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by Tracnac on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @02:35AM (#30999355)

Yes, you can, both options exists in System Preferences, one under Mouse, the other under Trackpad

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by ccouzens on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @03:49AM (#30999770)

But when you change one, the other changes :(

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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by Tracnac on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @03:31AM (#31012068)

Oh never notice that, thanks for the update

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