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Re:San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for ... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Monday April 11, 2022 @02:12PM (#30992560)
I'm lost by your comment.

It seems that you're trying to suggest either 1) that the standards as mentioned necessarily aren't True Standards - as a blanket statement - because they're set by the industry or 2) that these standards aren't True Standards - specific to this particular discussion - because there is no reason to think they're necessarily more rigorous than the standards for driverless car software. If you're trying to suggest something else, please understand that it is unclear.

I'm all for a dissenting opinion, but when it is not presented in an understandable way the discussion becomes hard to follow.

(I don't mean to suggest that the argument is wrong when I call out the True Scotsman vibes; just that it is the argument I see.)

Re:San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for ... by jklinger410 on Monday April 11, 2022 @03:45PM (#30993798)
What is the legal/regulatory difference between the aerospace industry regulating itself vs the auto industry regulating itself in regards to self driving? Besides the obvious that the aerospace industry has a head start.
Re:San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for ... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Monday April 11, 2022 @04:30PM (#30994508)
I believe I understand your point better.

From the person you're responding to:

> Yes, those standards that produced a safety regime of 20 years of flights without software being even implicated in a single fatality. ...

> As you note, unfortunately the standards as employed in practice have recently regressed dramatically to allow a system as unsafe as the 737 MAX to fly. ...

Your point, if I'm not mistaken, being that the FAA has clearly allowed for less stringent regulations in recent years. (Please correct me if I'm wrong. You can ask questions but it does not seem that they lead so immediately to the answers you expect.)

That being said, please consider that I am genuinely trying to understand you:

> I'm all for a dissenting opinion, but when it is not presented in an understandable way the discussion becomes hard to follow.