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Re:Atlassian: We estimate the rebuilding effort to last for ... by media-trivial on Monday April 11, 2022 @01:11PM (#30991841)
People are more forgiving torwards themselves and their own folks, I can understand that. I'm just thinking it's important to make decisions based on facts. Some self-hosters walk around with this "my own basement is safer than Amazon datacenters" attitude and that's just not true (in most cases, I guess :D).
Re:Atlassian: We estimate the rebuilding effort to last for ... by fisf on Monday April 11, 2022 @01:22PM (#30991990)
No. The basic assumption is only, that if I pay somebody money for the service and to keep things running, then sudden data loss is unacceptable (and a multi week downtime even more so).

Some companies cannot operate effectively without atlassian products, so a fuckup of that scale might just have legal consequences depending on whom it hits.

Re:Atlassian: We estimate the rebuilding effort to last for ... by vntok on Monday April 11, 2022 @02:19PM (#30992636)
> Some companies cannot operate effectively without atlassian products

Kind of their problem to be frank.

> so a fuckup of that scale might just have legal consequences depending on whom it hits.

Any contract those companies signed would have a cap on the retributions by Atlassian for trashing SLA targets

Re:Atlassian: We estimate the rebuilding effort to last for ... by akho on Monday April 11, 2022 @01:54PM (#30992384)
In my years of selfhosting personal stuff I never had a service “sunset“, never lost data, and never had significant downtime.

In the external services I use, downtime of one service or other is to be expected at least a few times a year, and the “sunsets” happen occasionally.

Thing is, public services are solving a much more difficult problem (keeping things running safely for millions).