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Re:Covid is becoming increasingly vaccine enabled by moistly on Sunday April 10, 2022 @07:07PM (#30982668)
> there is surely a case to answer as to whether the vaccinations have caused harm

Answer: they reduced harmful outcomes by orders of magnitude. It is stupid to suggest that this is in question.

Nothing is harmless. Obviously a few people had bad reactions to the vaccine. Obviously it is not 100% effective. But those numbers a nothing compared to the reduction in unnecessary deaths and unnecessarily shortened, taste-free, mentally-fogged, or otherwise harmed lives.

Re:Covid is becoming increasingly vaccine enabled by verisimi on Sunday April 10, 2022 @07:16PM (#30982732)
for your info, what I said - with context - was:

> If they were down in the first, but up in the second, there is surely a case to answer as to whether the vaccinations have caused harm.

"If"

I didn't say they have caused harm, I'm saying we don't know. We don't have the data to know. But in the spirit of truth, this would be worth investigating.