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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by bjourne on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:13AM (#30968242)
> To be clear, the net result was still higher pay overall, but not a lot.

Then I don't understand your ambivalence. Who would complain about getting more money?

Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by IMTDb on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:44AM (#30968465)
Because it probably cost a lot more to the institution than it brought to the intended target. A middleman takes the bulk of the additional investment, without providing that much value in itself.

And that money came from somewhere, probably partly from profits, but also from other investments (buildings, teaching material, ...). Overall teacher got a little bit more, but both the org and the students lost a lot, comparatively.

Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by klyrs on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:50AM (#30969071)
At many universities, there's a massive stash of funds: the Athletics Department, which is a completely different organization and therefore off the table.

Also, university administration lover building pyramids of hierarchy. When you add a level to the pyramid, everybody gets a raise. Executive salaries are ludicrous -- and similar to the bank execs in the '08 bailouts, they cut themselves bonuses for "saving money" on handling disasters of their own creation.

By and large, university endowments are treated as separate investment vehicles and are no longer used to ease times of hardship.

Universities have largely been sold out. What was once a venerable public institution is now run like a profit-driven business. Welcome to wal-mart.

Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by chmod600 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:29AM (#30968861)
It's like class-action lawsuits: sure, maybe you get $2.43, but the lawyers are really the beneficiaries. The individual is just used to justify the whole thing.
Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by HarryHirsch on Saturday April 09, 2022 @01:31PM (#30970033)
No, the lawyer's job in a class action is to hold the someone accountable to prevent recurrences. They did a job, so they ought to be paid.

If some company habitually breaks the law and causes damages to a large group of people you can either pray that the Attorney General takes the case (but they won't, they want to advance their political career) or a law firm will take the case out of pure financial interest. I'll go with the law firm.

Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by caddemon on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:30AM (#30968885)
Students voted for this union because of major issues with the entire academic training process, not to get a small salary bump. The presence of the union at other schools has not led to any real attempts to fix the systemic issues, yet it adds another layer of bureaucracy to deal with for any students that want to face these issues.