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Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by barry-cotter on Saturday April 09, 2022 @07:55AM (#30967239)
Yeah, this is bullshit. Even with no knowledge of China or Shanghai whatsoever you should know this is bullshit. There were very few jumpers in New York on September 11th. Most people don’t kill themselves in the face of certain death by burning or a building falling. Mass suicide wasn’t a thing in extermination camps like Auschwitz. Religiously motivated instances of mass suicide rely on peer pressure mechanisms that don’t function when everyone’s in their damned apartment.

Also there’s no hint of this in any of the group chats I’m in and given I’m in Shanghai that would be big local news. Censorship doesn’t work well or fast when people have nothing to do except gossip.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by 0des on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:03AM (#30967293)
Very few jumped in 9/11? Are you kidding me? I personally saw many with my own eyes.
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by FredPret on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:24AM (#30967433)
I’m so sorry to hear that. That must’ve been an awful experience
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by urthor on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:18AM (#30967397)
As a percentage it wasn't high. Dozens I think?

Maybe 100 jumpers out of 3000 deaths?

In the worst situation imaginable.

I call that an endorsement for humanity's innate desire to grasp at life.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by jallen_dot_dev on Saturday April 09, 2022 @09:06AM (#30967715)
Keep in mind many 9/11 victims wouldn't have been able to get to a window or break it out. And many would have succumbed to the smoke and not had the chance. Also, one isn't going to commit suicide if they think they are still going to be rescued by the firefighters they knew were on their way. Contrast that with a month of seemingly irrational lockdown with no end in sight because 0-covid is futile.

I don't even understand the point you're trying to help defend. You know a story about suicide must be fake news because suicide isn't a thing that happens? Really?

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by 0des on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:31AM (#30967475)
> as a percentage

Buddy I don't even know where to start here, while being polite.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by Noumenon72 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @09:10AM (#30967755)
This is basic numeracy. Looking at several instances of something and asking "Is that a lot?" It was many more suicides than you have seen on an average day but it may be a surprisingly small number given the situation. Percentage is a tool to help you ask "did the many incidents I heard about represent what most people there experienced, or not?"
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by urthor on Saturday April 09, 2022 @09:53PM (#30973802)
I should've have had "this is a symbolism for how wonderful human beings are" at the start

These were my exact thoughts. Even in a tragedy, most people tried their hardest until the very end.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by sumedh on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:40AM (#30967553)
> Maybe 100 jumpers out of 3000 deaths?

How many of those 3000 were not able to reach the windows?

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by seizethegdgap on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:02AM (#30967286)
The video is here, (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/tzosau/peop...) but each clip is unsourced or from an unknown date/time/location. It isn't a collective "mass suicide" in the Jonestown sense of the term, but a mass amount of individuals committing suicide.
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by hihihihi1234 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:21AM (#30967413)
I know this guy who's a rabid anti-vaxxer who thinks the COVID vaccines are a bioweapon engineered to kill people as part of a shadowy conspiracy to lower the world population by a billions. He claims that vaccinated people are dropping dead of heart attacks left, right and centre and it's all being covered up. Recently he sent me some "evidence" of this claim which was a compilation of clips (many taken from live TV) of people collapsing or fainting, sometimes clutching their chests, overlayed with spooky music and the Pfizer logo in the corner. Don't you get it? All these people are collapsing because they took the vaccine!

Except within five minutes I was able to find many of those same clips in other videos - eg by searching YouTube for "people fainting" - and most of them predated the pandemic by years. Clearly some troll had just found a bunch of old clips of people collapsing and edited it together into a lazy piece of anti-vaxx propaganda. And it works! People fall for it, even though this particular clip took about thirty seconds to debunk.

My point is - I've seen videos before of people jumping from buildings. They're not hard to find online; the now-defunct r/watchpeopledie was full of them, as was Liveleak (RIP). It would be trivially easy to find a bunch of these clips, edit them together and give them a caption that claims they all happened recently in one place and are part of a disturbing new trend.

So I'm not convinced that this video you shared is what it claims to be.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by lowercased on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:43AM (#30969004)
Did you point this out to the 'rabid anti-vaxxer' who sent it to you? What was his reaction? My guess is the reality of it doesn't matter one bit to that person.
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by hihihihi1234 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @12:07PM (#30969224)
You guess correctly.

This person isn't my friend, and I consider him beyond help.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by seizethegdgap on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:23AM (#30967424)
I understand that, I'm just sharing the video.