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Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by AuryGlenz on Friday April 08, 2022 @05:56PM (#30962997)
If their pronouns aren’t what a person would naturally assume, great. For the rest of us it’s just pure virtue signaling.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by rhizome on Friday April 08, 2022 @08:54PM (#30964265)
If "welcoming" is a virtue, sure. I don't see what's wrong with that, but I do see a problem with using "virtue signaling" in a way that implies there's no such thing as virtue, or that it is always apparent.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by Fomite on Friday April 08, 2022 @06:23PM (#30963245)
For the rest of us, it's trying to make people feel like they're not singling themselves out for expressing their preferences. Me putting "He/Him" on my name tag is an extremely low cost/low effort thing.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by ALittleLight on Friday April 08, 2022 @10:31PM (#30964803)
I'm not sure about this. For one thing, it's odd to try and pretend that aspects unique to a small group of people are common to everyone. For example, some people with crone's disease might put that in their bio - are you going to start including health information in your bio to make them feel more at home?

Either trans people pass, in which case they, by definition, aren't singled out, or they don't pass in which case regardless of what's in your Twitter bio they will still be singled out. I heard about a situation where five or six women stood up to speak and said their pronouns and then a trans person stood up and shared theirs. The trans person said it felt awkward - like every person began by calling attention to the fact that some pronouns are obvious and others aren't.

To me it seems much more like signalling. In 99+% of instances I can guess the appropriate pronouns. When I can't then it makes sense to state them.

Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by fossuser on Saturday April 09, 2022 @02:12AM (#30965626)
I don’t do it because I think most of the time it’s more about signaling political affiliation than actually solving a problem.

It also tends to then extend to things like pretending there are no sex differences and that everything is socially constructed (which I think is nonsense). I used to think this was a strawman, but the Lia Thomas story shows it isn’t imo: https://overcast.fm/+vpWbPtN0o

This is obviously a third rail internet topic and people can do what they like, but I won’t put pronouns in my bio and I won’t submit to pressure to do so in order to pass some sort of political morality test.

Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by jmcgough on Saturday April 09, 2022 @07:29AM (#30967105)
> It also tends to then extend to things like pretending there are no sex differences and that everything is socially constructed (which I think is nonsense)

Only a small minority of people believe that.

> I won’t put pronouns in my bio and I won’t submit to pressure to do so in order to pass some sort of political morality test.

Literally no one is trying to force you to do that.

Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by zo1 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @09:34AM (#30967935)
> Literally no one is trying to force you to do that.

Not OP, but I had to do a conference talk on some or other live-stream platform and pronouns were 100% required for all speakers.

This is societal level, passive or "mild" bullying that the feminists have been complaining as a symptom of patriarchy for many years, yet here we are, reverse perpetuating things that we will most likely be judged on in coming generations.

Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by fossuser on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:24AM (#30968825)
That small minority seem to have disproportionate power (at least in the case of Lia Thomas).

I’m not sure how small it is and I don’t want to enable it.

There are people forcing/pressuring participation in the public display of pronouns/say your pronouns thing (you may just live somewhere insulated from it).

I’ve had it happen in Silicon Valley interviews and I know some groups at Stanford require it.

Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by datavirtue on Friday April 08, 2022 @08:31PM (#30964117)
Agreed. Super cheap.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by acjohnson55 on Friday April 08, 2022 @11:07PM (#30964960)
Complaining about virtue signaling is perhaps the most tiresome version of virtue signaling.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by pyronik19 on Thursday April 14, 2022 @09:36AM (#31026780)
Complaining about people complaining about virtue signaling is even more tiresome. It's a way to protect the root toxic behavior by projection of that behavior on those trying to put a stop to it.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by UncleMeat on Saturday April 09, 2022 @07:39AM (#30967155)
Yup. I think this idea has done a tremendous amount of harm. It is possible to be actually virtuous but this is apparently now lost as doing any kind thing for anybody is criticized as virtue signaling.
Re:Twitter accounts dropping “.eth” from usernames by teg4n_ on Friday April 08, 2022 @11:03PM (#30964932)
Most of the time people do not know your real identity on the internet so I don’t think natural assumptions have that much to do with it. Even if someone is well known and their gender is well known it doesn’t harm anyone or anything to have their pronouns in their bio. The fact it annoys so many people for “virtue signaling” is baffling to me. Who cares about virtue signaling and why is it seemingly only conservatives that think it’s derogatory when complaining about virtue signaling is far more of a virtue signal than pronouns lol.