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Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by tintor on Friday April 08, 2022 @01:10PM (#30959793)
Motion sickness is body's way to protect itself against eating hallucinogens by mistake. Large mismatch between what your inner ear is feeling about your motion, and what your eyes perceive as your motion, imply possible hallucinogens, so your body is trying to make you throw them up. Humans haven't evolved riding in vehicles. Interior of car is not moving much relative to you, but your inner ear feels movement.
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by dylan604 on Friday April 08, 2022 @01:21PM (#30959924)
This seems very odd as by the time you start feeling the effects of an hallucinogen, your body has already absorbed them past the point of expelling them being effective.
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by xenadu02 on Friday April 08, 2022 @01:26PM (#30960001)
Apparently dosing was enough of a difference at some point that this mechanism evolved (assuming the stated reason is accurate).

Perhaps our distant ancestors also tended to eat a small bite first, then proceed with other foods, before consuming the remainder? For that matter the drug wouldn't be absorbed all at once. If it is toxic better to eject whatever hasn't been digested than continue absorbing it. There's a bonus psychological side-effect: vomiting is not pleasant and the individual (if they survive) will be more likely to remember what they ate and how sick it made them to avoid it in the future.

Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by autoexec on Friday April 08, 2022 @10:36PM (#30964823)
> There's a bonus psychological side-effect: vomiting is not pleasant

I never want to do it, but it nearly always makes me feel much better. You can even get a sort of sense of calm or euphoria from vomiting. I can't say that it's pleasant, but if it were less gross and smelly it wouldn't be so bad... although the muscle contractions would still be hell on my under-trained abs.

Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by xen0 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:14AM (#30968249)
I believe that's just endorphins.

I'm familiar with the sensation; it's enough to make you feel better, possibly even sober (if it was a drinking related episode), but the effect is unfortunately very temporary.

Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by bee_rider on Friday April 08, 2022 @01:33PM (#30960097)
Is that always the case? I suspect the hallucinogens that people have selected to intentionally trip on are a bit unusual (intentional dose sizes, presumably they are selected to get the person tripping in some particular timeframe, right? I'm obviously showing some ignorance on this topic).
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by ncmncm on Friday April 08, 2022 @01:56PM (#30960377)
This would have evolved in our rodent ancestors. They would have nibbled a bit of anything they came across that seemed like it might possibly be food.

Oddly, I gather rats cannot barf, which is why coumarin works as rat killer.

Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by nkurz on Saturday April 09, 2022 @03:24PM (#30971139)
> Oddly, I gather rats cannot barf, which is why coumarin works as rat killer.

I think your recollection is off by a little. Coumarin is an anticoagulant and damages rats' livers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coumarin

You might be thinking of corn gluten meal, which kills rats by preventing them from absorbing water? It's sold as RatX: https://www.ecoclearproducts.com/pages/ratx-faqs

Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by pugworthy on Friday April 08, 2022 @02:20PM (#30960686)
You've defined it via the general mismatch in a good way. Sea sickness is your eyes saying, "I'm not moving", but your inner ear saying, "Oh yes we are". VR sickness is your eyes saying, "We are moving" and your inner ear saying, "No we're not"
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by skykooler on Friday April 08, 2022 @02:33PM (#30960822)
I wonder whether having something to blow air on you in particular directions as you move in VR might help with that, then?
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by magicalhippo on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:15AM (#30968742)
That shouldn't be too hard to try out. A few fans controlled by the motion in the game. Sounds worth a shot.
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by nvahalik on Friday April 08, 2022 @05:08PM (#30962550)
That would be really, really nifty.
Re:A naked skydive inspired a way to keep pilots oriented in... by alar44 on Friday April 08, 2022 @07:28PM (#30963734)
This is one evolutionary explanation, but hasn't been proven, and is not widely accepted. I don't buy it, as by the time you're feeling effects from ingesting something, you're already 45 minutes to an hour in. Additionally, our taste buds and nose do a great job of warning us about things we shouldn't be eating.