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Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by samplatt on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @03:15AM (#30929325)
I recall the Radeon 9800 Pro was being sold for about US$300 and came with Half-Life 2, which was designed for it. Doom 3 was out at the same time and was optimised for NVidia cards. It was a sort of "battle of the graphics platforms", both hardware-wise and software-wise.

And now two short decades later we're paying 10x the amount for top-tier cards, and HL3 still isn't out.

Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by bayindirh on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @03:36AM (#30929457)
Don't forget that Valve later rendered HDR on ATI 9600 series card with no perceivable performance penalty, and showed that elbow grease and ingenuity can remove theoretical hardware limitations.

Also, I remember that quote (from Gabe himself, I think): "We may have polished graphics further, but that game won't be Half Life anymore.", a direct stab taken at linearity of Doom of that time.

Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by qwery on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @05:04AM (#30929987)
> elbow grease and ingenuity can remove theoretical hardware limitations

Of course, 'theoretical' hardware limitations aren't hard limits -- they're soft[ware] ones. However, if you find yourself battling concrete hardware limitations, what you need is to put your back into it and a little know-how.

Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by bayindirh on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @05:19AM (#30930077)
The thing is, HDR is considered too expensive and impossible on these cards without specific hardware capabilities and relevant API support.

Valve said "Ha, let's see!" and implemented great HDR visuals with integers only. So it's not just let's hack together and see how it goes. IIRC, it took three re-implementations to get it right and performant.

Similarly, I'm not a stranger when it comes to hardware and its limits, but what deemed impossible by many, even knowledgeable people, doesn't mean it's a hard, cold truth (e.g. demoscene and PoC||GTFO).

Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by qwery on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @06:19AM (#30930395)
My apologies, I read too deeply into your comment. I just enjoyed (too much) the use of the phrase 'theoretical hardware limitations'.
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by bayindirh on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @07:11AM (#30930737)
No worries, enjoy your stay. :)
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by gattilorenz on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @03:26AM (#30929390)
> came with Half-Life 2

I think mine came with Vietcong, which was... underwhelming.

Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by lovehashbrowns on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @05:33AM (#30930157)
Is that the game that had this in its soundtrack? https://youtu.be/fuYL-keoGvU

I still listen to it on occasion. Don’t even remember how I found that song because I’ve never played that game, I don’t think.

Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by gattilorenz on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @06:41AM (#30930538)
Yes, the soundtrack and setting was objectively the best part of that game
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by bayindirh on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @03:32AM (#30929442)
Nope, I got a 9600XT, and it came with a serial number for HL2. I added a Zalman cooler on top of that card, and it was both silent and stable.
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by poglet on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @05:34AM (#30930161)
I got the 9600XT for Half-Life 2 which was kinda silly in the end since HL2 took so long to come out that I could have gotten a newer card. However I believe it also came with a copy of Counter-Strike Source Beta which I enjoyed greatly. My card had tiny LED's on it that prevented me from sleeping with my computer on. Great times.
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by gattilorenz on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @03:55AM (#30929592)
I guess it depends on who made the card? Probably Sapphire and MSI and others had different bundled stuff (maybe also different by country, and I'm in EU)
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by ricardobayes on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @05:47AM (#30930231)
Just shows how big the markup was, to be able to bundle a 60$ game with a 300$ card.
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by filmor on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @06:34AM (#30930501)
The Radeon cards came with coupons for HL2 a while before the game was released. My brother bought one from someone in school, there was quite a bit of trading going on :)
Re:Steam: Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey (2004) by Daneel_ on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @07:51AM (#30931009)
I still have mine - it came with my 9800 XT. The last AGP card I ever owned.