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Re:The next Google by mattcwilson on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:35PM (#30925982)
Wondering if, by “elitist”, GP meant more like “out of reach to many laypeople because of learning curve.” Is there a good single word for that? “Difficult” and “complex” aren’t quite right.

Anyway - you’re right, nothing at all wrong with wanting choice. I think the point being made here though is that “layperson gravity” / mass market appeals / lowest common denominator is going to mean that tuneable web search will be a niche product, forever. Even if we’d both like that niche.

Re:The next Google by tobyjsullivan on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @07:20PM (#30926421)
"High barrier to entry" ie, only accessible to an elite class (1337, if you will)

"Elitist" feels pejorative. Also a not-inaccurate way to describe a system which presents high barriers to entry.

Re:The next Google by nmstoker on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:56PM (#30927112)
What were these high barriers to entry?

Not trying to be awkward, but even back in the early days of Netscape, it wasn't like you had to recall any arcane commands to use most search engines.

Sure, they all had limitations then, such as not necessarily knowing similar word senses to create more nuanced searches, but that was a fairly level playing field.

Is it simply that it was initially a bit obscure and not everyone had found out about it? That's not really a barrier in terms of difficulty - as soon as people got into the "in crowd" they could use it just like the rest of them.

Re:The next Google by jusssi on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @01:59AM (#30928921)
> What were these high barriers to entry?

Cost was one. Hardware wasn't cheap and it would seem to have no practical use except to satisfy one's curiosity. A PC for the kids cost about half of our family's monthly gross income. A modem would be 10%. And the phone bill caused tourette's like symptoms more than once.

Re:The next Google by calvinmorrison on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @10:59PM (#30927993)
my first site was on geocities i made with a sort of pagebuilder inside yahoo on a crummy hand me down... i didn't know what 'programming' even was.

Why is publishing documents so complex now?

my site is all html, why not.

Re:The next Google by RugnirViking on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @07:27AM (#30930846)
there are so many options, many complex, but many too are simple. One of my personal favorites is using github pages, you can host a plaintext html document for free in about 10 minutes (including downloading a text editor and github desktop)
Re:The next Google by ipaddr on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:57PM (#30927597)
When I started all modem calls required remembering 'atdt'

When netscape came out if you were lucky to have ppp access setting it up on windows 3.1 was difficult but once you were up as long as no one picked up the phone you were fine.

But even this was too difficult for the average person who lived in an aol world where the internet was limited to aol.

Re:The next Google by gorjusborg on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @07:38PM (#30926557)
Yes. The early internet wasn't elitist but a higher percentage were elite than today.