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Re:Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania by throwaway290 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:01PM (#30925623)
> Imagine an alternate universe where Ukraine joins EU and NATO and now russia faces a NATO "wall" on the west.

if nato were at russian border then russia would in some ways be china's ukraine. possibly something they preferred to avoid

Re:Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania by ithkuil on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @08:21AM (#30931213)
But NATO is already at russian border. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are NATO members since 2004.

Also, if russia annexes Ukraine (because, remember "Ukraine doesn't exist, they all just russians") then suddenly the number of NATO members that would share the border with Russia will include Poland and Hungary (members since 1999), Slovakia and Romania (members since 2004).

I don't think it works like that; it's not Risk.