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Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by rkachowski on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @04:54AM (#30916732)
> First Light used a hypervelocity gun, which engineers call their “Big Friendly Gun,” to fire a projectile at 6.5 kilometers (4 miles) a second into a fuel target to generate energy

I would love to be the scientist deadpan explaining to a reporter that BFG is short for Big Friendly Gun, and anything else is just a coincidence.

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFG_(weapon) )

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by nicoburns on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:05AM (#30917140)
Hah, that's not the association I have with that acronym:

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_BFG)

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by TrispusAttucks on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:54AM (#30917429)
As long as the nerds know the truth ;)
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by roenxi on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:46AM (#30918277)
I remain distressed by the relative lack of effort we put in to nuclear physics vs more mundane things.

> ...fusion plants seek to bind them together at temperatures 10 times hotter than the sun...

These are outrageous conditions compared to the entire geological history of the earth. Every interesting quirk at this point is a roll of the dice at potentially entering a new era of prosperity that has been the stuff of dreams; exploring opportunities that earth life has never had the opportunity to try.

There doesn't seem to be a level of funding here in proportion to the potential payoffs. We should be dumping attention and resources into this tech until it hurts.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by mtoner23 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @10:25AM (#30919394)
But, on the other hand, consider how good we are at convincing teenagers to buy stuff from facebook ads.
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by RedShift1 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:17AM (#30916886)
From what I understand, producing a fusion reaction isn't the hardest part, it's maintaining it, extracting energy from it and preventing all the stuff containing the plasma from becoming radioactive. So I think by now generating a fusion reaction is not exactly breakthrough anymore? Sure the method is novel but I don't see how it helps with all the other stuff that's needed to make it useful.
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by OJFord on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:41AM (#30917351)
Claims it's 1000x cheaper, so I suppose that's the breakthrough. Fusion has been achieved, you're right; next step is creating more energy than is consumed to do so; then commercialising it.

This makes it cheaper/easier to commercialise, but no closer (maybe further away, nothing claimed in the article) to the second step of getting more out than in.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by davedx on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @07:07AM (#30917501)
Hacker News loves nuclear fusion headlines!

It's not a breakthrough if sustainable energy output hasn't been realised. Initiating fusion is not the hard part.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by rkangel on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:09AM (#30917961)
It's completely in the same category as battery technology - interesting advancement, probably not going to actually get to production, even if it does it'll take years.

That said, it is still an interesting advancement of interest to the sort of people on HN. You could argue that this is one of the better forums for this sort of news because we mostly know what sort of pinch of salt to take with the promises.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by nabla9 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:27AM (#30917280)
UKAEA validated the fusion. Fusion produced just 50 neutrons (microscopic fusion).

It's a baby step, but fun concept.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by eunos on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @04:34AM (#30916607)
Man what field hasn't touched by Tencent right now?
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by rapsey on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @04:47AM (#30916686)
The startup probably has a bunch of investors. I guess they just picked the one that is the best clickbait? It's not like Tencent themselves are working on it.
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by oefrha on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:38AM (#30916988)
It’s also a very recent investor — apparently only got in at Series C in February 2022. The startup itself has been around for more than a decade. But of course “Parkwalk Advisors-backed startup” won’t get them the clicks.

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/first-light-fusion/c...

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by tommiegannert on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:28AM (#30916947)
Looks like outrage porn or Bloomberg doing Tencent favors, yes. The FL press release contains no mention of Tencent [1]. It also doesn't contain a publishing date, which I find funny since they're claiming to be first:

> First Light Fusion (First Light), the University of Oxford fusion spin-out, today confirms it has achieved fusion.

[1] https://firstlightfusion.com/media/fusion

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by Rastonbury on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:38AM (#30918210)
Outrage porn? Nah, I just typical pop sci clickbait like we used to see with like cancer-linked studies or breakthrough
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by jpgvm on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @07:01AM (#30917461)
Bloomberg rewards reporters based on how much their news moves the market. Tencent is the only publicly traded investor I think.
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by tpmx on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:33PM (#30921138)
I've realized by now that Tencent (or another chinese movie investment company) being a co-producer/investor in a "western" movie production is a pretty strong predictor of the movie being a medium-to-high budget mess with a very strange script.

'Moonfall' being the most recent example.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by phtrivier on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @04:59AM (#30916764)
I searched the article for the letter "Q", and did not find anything. Any idea of how usefull the laser can be ?
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by Retric on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:36AM (#30917329)
This is at approximately Q=0.00000 stage, it also skips the lasers and simply fires a projectile.
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by shapefrog on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:02AM (#30916788)
Q predicted this?
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by ArnoVW on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:19AM (#30916892)
to quote Wikipedia:

A fusion energy gain factor, usually expressed with the symbol Q, is the ratio of fusion power produced in a nuclear fusion reactor to the power required to maintain the plasma in steady state. The condition of Q = 1, when the power being released by the fusion reactions is equal to the required heating power, is referred to as breakeven, or in some sources, scientific breakeven.

TL;DR: high Q = free unlimited energy!!!! low Q = "fusion is 30 years away"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by thwoawayyowser on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:15AM (#30917208)
And undefined Q = "Let's get some press before our next funding round" /s
Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by justsomehnguy on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @07:12PM (#30926344)
> TL;DR: high Q = free unlimited energy!!!! low Q = "fusion is 30 years away"

The real LPT is always in the comments.

Re:Tencent-Backed UK Startup First Light Achieves Nuclear Fu... by MrWiffles on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:59AM (#30917452)
No, but he’s always watching. The trial never ends…