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Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by zymhan on Monday April 04, 2022 @11:18PM (#30914949)
As has often been said, that dock really is a computer.

I don't think that's a good thing though. No adapter/hub should be this complex IMO. I don't know how the ubiquity of USB got us to this point, it seems worse than before.

Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by dylan604 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:22AM (#30915274)
Because it's not USB it's Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt taps directly into the PCIe bus where USB doesn't. It only makes sense it is going to be much more than just a USB switch/hub. It's basically one of those PCIe expansion chasis that allowed extra expansion cards when your case only had 3 slots. Except, this is a nice neat little box on top of your desk.
Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by ethbr0 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:44AM (#30918890)
> Customers: "We want one cable that does everything, super fast!"

> Engineers: "Okay... but it's going to be expensive and complicated..."

> Apple: "Money is insignificant next to the power of user experience."

> Intel: "Oh, people are actually using this thing we created?"

> USB-IF: "But us, b..."

> Intel: "So the USB won't let me B. Or let my TB be USB, so let me C."

> USB-IF: "You are again our hearts' delight."

> Customers: "Why is this so complicated? Remember when one connector meant one kind of cable? Those were great days."

And that's how we got here.

Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by afandian on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:57AM (#30918363)
The original LaserWriter had

> Motorola 68000 CPU running at 12 MHz, 512 KB of workspace RAM, and a 1 MB frame buffer.

vs the Mac 128K with

> Motorola 68000 microprocessor running at 7.8336 MHz, connected to 128 KB RAM shared by the processor and the display controller

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserWriter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K

Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by znpy on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:38AM (#30918212)
> As has often been said, that dock really is a computer.

No it isn't, lol. Thudernbolt/usb-c docks are a solution to a made-up problem.

It is absolutely possible to have all the necessary ports on a modern slip laptop.

Just look at the Dell Latitude 7390:

- https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/dell-latitude-7390

- https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Latitude-7390-i5-8350U-SS...

Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by Slaminerag on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:12AM (#30918522)
I have a Dell Latitude laptop. It absolutely doesn't have enough video ports for the monitors on my desk. And while it's got enough ports for my USB peripherals (barely), it's certainly a lot more convenient to connect one cable than to connect 5-6, when I bring it back from using it as a laptop.
Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by bluGill on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:05AM (#30918444)
Which is great on the road. When I'm in the office using my laptop as a desktop I want one plug for everything and that is what usb-c gives me, so it is easy to grab just the laptop and go. (On my current laptop it is two usb-c plugs on one connector as usb-c doesn't allow enough power or data for one port to work - I have to use their official hub which who knows how long they will make).
Re:USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021) by CyberNoodle on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:07AM (#30918467)
Made-up problem? Maybe if you use your laptop as a desktop and never take it anywhere. I don’t want to plug in a dozen cables whenever I come home or go to work, or after each and every meeting.