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Re:Single-chip processors have reached their limits by AceJohnny2 on Monday April 04, 2022 @02:08PM (#30910002)
I'll add that many DRAM chips already do something like this, but ironically enough the re-routing mechanism adds complexity which is itself a source of problems, (be it manufacturing or design, such as broken timing promises)

Also, NAND Flash storage (SSD) is designed around the very concept of re-routing around bad blocks, because the very technology means they have a wear-life.

Re:Single-chip processors have reached their limits by Dylan16807 on Monday April 04, 2022 @02:48PM (#30910550)
> I'll add that many DRAM chips already do something like this, but ironically enough the re-routing mechanism adds complexity which is itself a source of problems, (be it manufacturing or design, such as broken timing promises)

The best-performing solution there is probably software. Tell the OS about bad blocks and keep the hardware simple.

Re:Single-chip processors have reached their limits by nine_k on Monday April 04, 2022 @02:55PM (#30910638)
I think this is already implemented both in Linux and in Windows; you can tell the OS which RAM ranges are defective.

Doing this from the chip side is not there yet, apparently. I wonder when will this be included in the DRAM feature list, if ever. I suspect that detecting defects from the RAM side is not trivial.

Re:Single-chip processors have reached their limits by Dylan16807 on Monday April 04, 2022 @03:17PM (#30910844)
> I suspect that detecting defects from the RAM side is not trivial.

Factory testing or a basic self-test mode could easily find any parts that are flat-out broken. And as internal ECC rolls out as a standard feature, that could help find weaker rows over time.

Re:Single-chip processors have reached their limits by CamouflagedKiwi on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @02:59AM (#30916093)
Yep, my last PC developed a defect in one of the RAM modules. Finding it using memtest86 was trivial; easier than figuring out exactly how to tell Windows what to do about it...

Of course it did take a little bit of a hunch to go from "the game I'm playing crashes at this point" to "maybe my RAM is defective". I suppose ECC would help spot this.

Re:Single-chip processors have reached their limits by EricE on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:55PM (#30927579)
Spot and correct it too :)