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Re:The singularity is close? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 01, 2022 @06:54AM (#30876911)
Who is reading the Apple?
Re:The singularity is close? by simonh on Friday April 01, 2022 @07:24AM (#30877084)
I'm not sure what you mean by reading.

We say that we can experience thinking about an Apple, or imagining an Apple. I see no reason why a computer, or other physically implemented AGI system, could not do that. I suspect the act of imagination is just generating, processing and transforming a computational model abstracting the thing being imagined.

I believe brains are physical objects, so therefore physical objects can imagine Apples.

Re:The singularity is close? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 01, 2022 @09:40AM (#30877951)
The plane of imagination isn’t physical, else you could touch it.
Re:The singularity is close? by simonh on Friday April 01, 2022 @11:12AM (#30878945)
I don't know what a plane is in this context.

You can't touch fourier transforms either, but a human brain or a microchip can compute them.

Re:The singularity is close? by gaganyaan on Friday April 01, 2022 @10:10AM (#30878227)
Sure you can, its done currently for Deep Brain Stimulation. What you're proposing is "The plane of Quake isn't physical", which is nonsense.

I can make the computer imagine Quake for me, then fiddle with its plane of imagination for some sweet wallhacks.

Re:The singularity is close? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 01, 2022 @01:43PM (#30881033)
If you create a device that can insert objects into the plane of someone’s imagination, that would be awesome :)
Re:The singularity is close? by gaganyaan on Friday April 01, 2022 @03:53PM (#30882584)
That's a side effect of DBI today. It's a random and crude method today, but arguing that we we'll hit some ineffable wall that will prevent more fine-grained control is.. well let's just say that the gaps for gods grow ever smaller.
Re:The singularity is close? by gaganyaan on Friday April 01, 2022 @09:40AM (#30877947)
Who is it that fetched this comment from the internet for you?

Using vaguely-defined words to support a deist position is a time-honored tradition, but isn't particularly interesting or convincing.