Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by Retric on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:00AM
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The surface of Mars being further from the sun and inside an atmosphere has vastly fewer issues with radiation.
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Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by Symmetry on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:16AM
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In both cases you're well protected against the solar wind by distance and atmosphere in the case of the Mars rover and by the Van Allen belts in the case of the Space Shuttle. But both still have to worry about cosmic rays. Mars's thin atmosphere helps a bit with that but not nearly as much as you'd like.
EDIT: I suspect a lot of what lets you use Snapdragons in the rover is the idea of making error resistant systems rather than error resistent devices. The same thing that let us replace a single $10,000 hard driver with ten $100 hard drives in a RAID with the same performance and reliability despite the individual drives being much worse.
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by Retric on Thursday March 31, 2022 @12:01PM
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That’s not really accurate the sun causes real issues in LEO. See chapter 2 starting on page 9 here:
https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1101&co...
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by dylan604 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @01:29PM
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As an anecdotal bit of support, I seem to recall recently SpacX loosing a number of satellites in their LEO constellation because of sun activity
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by mschuster91 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @03:28PM
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Yes, but that was not due to EM activity, it was because the solar activity made the atmosphere go up higher than usual which meant that the atmospheric drag was too strong for the engines to overcome.
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by temp0826 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:27AM
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Biggest difference is the lack of risk to human life, tbh
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by geerlingguy on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:07AM
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But more issues with temperature swings—ideally radiation wouldn't be the main concern here in Earth's atmosphere.
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by Retric on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:19AM
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Rovers regulate internal temperatures to keep electronics happy. Ex: https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/mission/rover/temperature/
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by addingnumbers on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:20AM
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We can't teleport something from one atmosphere to another, though. It's a long trip.
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by Retric on Thursday March 31, 2022 @11:47AM
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That’s a risk, but the chip is off for the trip which makes a significant difference. Fail safe is much easier if you can run diagnostics without needing the system to be doing it’s job.
Re:The big automotive semiconductor problem
by dclowd9901 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @12:55PM
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Also, human lives aren’t at stake if things go awry.