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Re:Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco by bglazer on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @04:52PM (#30860631)
The control aspects of self driving are much easier to solve.

Here’s an autonomous drifting Delorean https://youtu.be/3x3SqeSdrAE

The physics and control of cars are quite well understood, even in extreme conditions. Further, sensors allow a car to detect changing road conditions much more quickly and adeptly than a typical human.

The hard part of self driving seems to be understanding and predicting the humans in its environment.

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Re:Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco by SketchySeaBeast on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:47PM (#30861226)
That example is still a car on a known good road conditions. Do you have an example where half the parking lot is covered in ice, or trying to break on a road with unpredictable traction so that they don't end up halfway through the intersection?
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Re:Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco by busyant on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @09:21PM (#30862829)
> Do you have an example where half the parking lot is covered in ice, or trying to break on a road with unpredictable traction so that they don't end up halfway through the intersection?

If the car is "smart," maybe it will simply refuse to travel (because the calculated risk of traveling over an icy parking lot is above some maximum threshold risk).

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Re:Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco by hedora on Thursday March 31, 2022 @12:38AM (#30863872)
Humans have no trouble in these conditions (after a brief training period).

What happens the first time a steering wheel free car strands a family in a blizzard due to a few feet of icy pavement, ultimately freezing them to death?

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Re:Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco by ricardobayes on Thursday March 31, 2022 @08:28AM (#30866405)
I don't think cars will ever remove steering wheels. That was just Elon's fantasy for a limited use (driving through Boring tunnels). Similarly how you don't have a steering wheel in a driverless metro. Or perhaps it will be retractable when not in use, like a tow hook.
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Re:Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday March 31, 2022 @09:58AM (#30867261)
That would make commuting in northern areas very interesting.
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