Re:America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
by xeromal on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @09:30PM
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Aren't the PHDs producing things in the US that we use though? Medicines, research ,etc?
Re:America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
by paxys on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @11:03PM
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How are they doing that if they aren't allowed to live or work in the US after they finish their degree?
Re:America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
by xeromal on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @11:33PM
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They're doing the research and publishing the results during the degree. That's part of the PHD.
Re:America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
by phendrenad2 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @12:34PM
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PhD's real work starts after they graduate.
Re:America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
by valarauko on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @02:55PM
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Sure, but the argument in this thread suggests that the US is making an overall loss by funding the research carried out by foreign nationals. This is hardly the case - the value of the research is worth more than the manpower costs spent on them. Is there greater value to be had by encouraging them to stay within the country? For sure.
Look at postdocs - the US gets them at a pittance, they are more productive than PhD students and rather mentor them; and unlike graduate students, are usually overwhelmingly foreign nationals.
So we (as in "various elements of US society") are paying to educate people, and then are sending them back where their home countries benefit, while the US does not. It's so dumb.
There are some cool exceptions, like some programs where students educated in the US are required to go back to their home countries. The idea is to help raise the level of education in countries where the higher education system isn't well developed or funded, and I think that sort of thing is an admirable goal. But it's so bizarre that we, for example, complain about supposed Chinese academic espionage, and complain about brain drain, but simultaneously make it really hard for international students to stay in the US after they graduate.