Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apartment

Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by xyst on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @02:10PM (#30846306)

one of these days, we are going to look back on the absurdity of this current system. Just like we looked back on slavery.

Very basic housing should be free. Single payer healthcare should be the standard. Basic income should be provided. As we move towards a more automated society, there are going to be a ton of angry unemployed people with nothing to do but focus their anger on something else.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by lolsal on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @02:42PM (#30846689)

> Very basic housing should be free.

Please publish where you have developed and built all this free housing so that everyone that wants to live there can enjoy this right.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by tacLog on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @05:54PM (#30848873)

I mean your are assuming that with free housing you retain a right to live where you want to live.

I am NOT saying we should build this free housing in one area and stick people there: (see the many failed public housing attempts) But there are more options available than everyone getting free housing in the bay area, CA.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by lolsal on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:35AM (#31004088)

> I mean your are assuming that with free housing you retain a right to live where you want to live.

I'm not sure why you think that; I never said that anywhere.

> But there are more options available than everyone getting free housing in the bay area, CA.

Cool, are you going to volunteer to leave your hometown and family to live in this free basic housing? Plenty of land in west Texas if you need space.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by trasz on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @06:03PM (#30848955)

It’s called social housing and is available in many countries, such as UK. It’s often not literally free, but several times cheaper than market prices.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by lolsal on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:29AM (#31004009)

> It’s often not literally free

Ok, cool. Not what we're discussing though.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by chaorace on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @02:01AM (#30851923)

"Free" housing isn't charity or magic. It's a public service paid for by society for the benefit of society. Feel free to criticize the core value proposition, but please don't paint it as some impossible fantasy.

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Re:Shadow credit score could decide whether you get an apart... by lolsal on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:34AM (#31004071)

> "Free" housing isn't charity or magic. It's a public service paid for by society for the benefit of society. Feel free to criticize the core value proposition, but please don't paint it as some impossible fantasy.

I understand it's a service paid for by society. I think it's great that you think that too! A service provided by society is not a right though. I'm all for creating a lot of affordable housing, as soon as we define what "basic" means, and agree to who will pay for it (likely us citizens through taxes) and what sort of requirements there will be to be allotted some of this "free" housing.

If we take "basic housing is a right" off the table and replace it with "as a wealthy society, we should levy taxes to provide housing to everyone that wants housing," that's something I can get behind.

Stop calling it free. Stop calling it a right. Then I'm on board

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