Re:We can do better than “same, but electric”
by krasin on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @12:03AM
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Then how do these nuclear ships operate for decades?
Nuclear container ship Sevmorput: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevmorput
Civilian nuclear icebreakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-powered_icebreaker
Floating nuclear power plant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power...
Re:We can do better than “same, but electric”
by dghlsakjg on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @12:47AM
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All of the ships you linked to are operated by Rosatom or its predecessors.
That is essentially a state operator as far as I can tell.
Re:We can do better than “same, but electric”
by krasin on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @01:02AM
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State != military, though. For instance, all France nuclear power plants are operated by Électricité de France (EDF) that is substantially owned by the French Government, with around 85% shares in government hands ([1]).
I don't see a problem having nuclear container ships to be operated by civilian governmental agencies / state-owned enterprises. This might not work for the US, but we often have very unique ways of doing things.
Re:We can do better than “same, but electric”
by nine_k on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @03:21AM
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i suppose these ships only use Soviet / Russian ports, and mostly don't operate in high seas. Icebreakers do operate in high seas, but getting close to them is a bit hard due to ice and polar weather.
The more interesting example is NS Savannah [1], which indeed crossed oceans unattended, and was accepted at European ports.
Re:We can do better than “same, but electric”
by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @09:23AM
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Of those, the icebreakers have been commercially successful due to logistics of fueling in the attic and the heavy fuel needs of ice breaking (both solved by a reactor that only needs to be refueled once every few years).
You can, of course, use nuclear energy to run your ships, and even trucks and planes.
Use the nuclear energy (both the electricity and heat) to produce fuel from CO₂ and H₂O. Use this fuel in your jet engines and colossal diesel motors. Burning it is carbon-neutral.
Oil should become much more expensive though, and building of nuclear facilities, much more cost-efficient, for this to become economically viable.