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Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by abdusco on Monday March 28, 2022 @02:34AM (#30827733)
> “CODA” becomes the first film with a predominantly Deaf cast to win Best Picture

Whenever I see a movie/series starring a minority getting high awards I always think about if it was awarded for actually being good, or just because it had a cast filled with a lesser represented group and juries didn't want to come off as racist.

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by vmception on Monday March 28, 2022 @03:03AM (#30827896)
Whenever I see racist used in a sentence about deaf people I always think about if the person saying it has any idea what they're talking about, or if this is an example of language "evolving".

Admittedly this is a sample size of 1.

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by Ourgon on Monday March 28, 2022 @05:05AM (#30828660)
He should have used the term ableist [1] instead of racist, true. Then again, I'm sure you understood what he meant even if he did not use the correct -ist/-phobe/-privilege term of the moment. Also, his question - did this movie get lauded because of being a good movie or because its cast is made up out of people from a certain identity group - is not that far-fetched.

[1] The spell checker in Firefox recognises ableist as a valid word where it would not have done so only a few years back. This is not language evolution, it is revolutionary language.

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by Overtonwindow on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:01AM (#30829557)
Greater than one. The academy has put a significant amount of preference on race, so that none of these awards actually represent the movies or the performances, but the racial make up of the cast and crew.
Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by abdusco on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:13AM (#30829625)
I know difference in hearing ability is not something that constitutes a "race". But I consume a lot of US media I've come to accept that "racism/racist" can be used for anything that describes discrimination against a certain group.
Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by orev on Monday March 28, 2022 @03:16PM (#30834420)
“Racism” is definitely defined as discrimination because of race. It doesn’t matter that the general twitterverse has decided to misuse a term. (don’t get me started on the now constant incorrect use of “calculus” instead of “calculation”)

The word you’re looking for is “bigot/bigotry”.

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by Ourgon on Monday March 28, 2022 @06:46PM (#30836515)
The ADL changed the definition of the term racism somewhere in 2020 to mean The marginalization of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges white people. They changed it to something slightly less inflammatory in the beginning of 2022 but the fact stands that this organisation deemed the time to be ripe to go fully anti-white - i.e. to become racist according to the correct, printed-dictionary interpretation of that term. This is not the Twitterverse, it is (or at least used to be) one of the mainstays in the "fight" for a "more just society".
Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by KarlKemp on Monday March 28, 2022 @03:04AM (#30827903)
Well this should disabuse you of that notion:

— it’s a secret ballot

— the members of the jury aren’t widely known, as far as I can tell

— they care little for the reputation of the institution itself

— those that care are more likely to hate it for being snubbed in the past

— those that won obviously deserved the price and feel strongly that a meritocracy abhors loyalty

= this is a great chance to really vote with the heart, including settling a few scores with any group you secretly loath especially because “political correctness” forces you to keep it to yourself the rest of the year

Bonus inconsistency:

— there have been all-deaf movies before that didn’t win

Some groups were systematically or implicitly excluded from honors such as the Oscars for centuries. It’s great to see the trend bending towards justice. Unfortunately, they sometimes see their legitimate success undermined by various “but you didn’t really win the price/get hired/become President” strategies.

So… congratulations to being part of the problem, I guess.

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by Apocryphon on Monday March 28, 2022 @02:41AM (#30827768)
It was up against the biopic of the Williams sisters' father "King Richard", Japanese film "Drive My Car", Stephen Spielberg's remake of "West Side Story", and gay western "The Power of the Dog".

Perhaps the last was the second time such a film has been snubbed by the Academy, after "Brokeback Mountain" was infamously passed over by "Crash" in 2005.

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by dagmx on Monday March 28, 2022 @03:04AM (#30827900)
Would you flip that around and say that people are only receptive to movies with white, straight abled leads because it has a group that the majority can identify with, either through being of that demographic or as a byproduct of colonialism?
Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by Ourgon on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:19AM (#30829683)
You can flip it around in the sense that a movie which only stars those specific leads is unlikely to end up with any awards specifically due to the demographics of the cast. This actually reinforces the validity of the question asked by the parent.
Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by dagmx on Monday March 28, 2022 @10:23AM (#30830792)
How is it unlikely for them to earn those awards? The majority of winners, even last night, are straight, white, abled people. The majority of films that have won in the past have been that way too.

I don't think you actually really follow the Oscars so much as complain about a false sense of virtue signaling

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by Ourgon on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:40PM (#30832424)
a movie which only stars those specific leads is unlikely to end up with any awards

Movie, not individual actors. Movies with a cast of only this unfavoured identity class are unlikely to gain any awards.

> The majority of films that have won in the past have been that way too

The past is not now, my comment relates to the here and now ('is unlikely to', not 'was unlikely to'). The obsession with D.I.E [1] is a recent phenomenon.

> I don't think you actually really follow the Oscars

There you are right, I don't. I do read quite a bit about it but I never watched any of those shows, it is just not my thing.

> complain about a false sense of virtue signalling

False? We're talking about the organisation which went full Soviet by proclaiming movies needed to abide to their D.I.E. rules to be considered for academy awards [2] as part of their D.I.E. plan [3]. Read [2] and report back on whether this is anything but virtue signalling.

[1] Diversity, Inclusion, Equity

[2] https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-establishes-representati...

[2] https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-announces-next-phase-equ...

Re:Apple’s “Coda” Wins Historic Oscar for Best Picture at th... by prirun on Monday March 28, 2022 @10:18AM (#30830729)