Countering threats from North Korea

Re:Countering threats from North Korea by thematrixturtle on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:14PM (#30825540)

APT38/Lazarus has been around for years and has been investigated by many professional groups across the world (Kaspersky, McAfee, Mandiant, etc), many not connected to the US government. Are you alleging that they're all wrong and this is all some vast conspiracy to frame an innocent North Korea and protect... who, exactly?

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Re:Countering threats from North Korea by harry8 on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:25PM (#30826030)

Think of all the big, serious and sensible news organisations that independently reported WMD in Iraq while not being connected to the US government. Are you alleging they're all wrong and this is some vast conspiracy to frame an innocent Iraq and protect.. who, exactly?

Evidence is evidence. After WMD (which totally took me in, btw, you too?) Claims that evidence is "just over there" and "here are multiple different people reporting they've spoken to someone who saw it." Count for zero. Maybe they always should have but there's not doubt this stuff happens anymore. We watched it. (Hopefully) in horror as it unfolded without us objecting.

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Re:Countering threats from North Korea by nl on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:29PM (#30826445)

I thought the WMD "evidence" was BS, and actually there was only one piece that was presented publicly (the UN presentation by Colin Powell), and that was based on CIA secret intelligence. And the UN Weapon Inspectors were saying the opposite.

OTOH, the evidence linking APT38 to North Korea is pretty compelling. For example, there is a bunch of evidence collected independently identifying individuals associated with APT38, and these people worked for the North Korean company Chosun Expo.

See https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1092091/downl... for the evidence in depth.

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Re:Countering threats from North Korea by thematrixturtle on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:51PM (#30826605)

There's a huge difference between news organizations reporting on US govt claims, and investigators on the ground actually digging into the evidence on their own. Your assertion is basically the same as claiming that Iraq did have WMDs, but UNMOVIC etc were covering up and hiding the evidence.

For what it's worth, quite a few people were skeptical about the WMD "evidence" at the time, and even more cynics like myself figured that true or false, it was mostly an excuse for George W to Do Something(tm) after 9/11 and at the same time finish off the war his dad started.

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Re:Countering threats from North Korea by KarlKemp on Monday March 28, 2022 @03:48AM (#30828186)

News orgs reported claims by the US that Iraq had nuclear ambitions. No news org claimed to have “independently verified” it.

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