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Re:The NSA Teams Up with the Chinese Government to Limit Int... by biohacker42 on Thursday September 18, 2008 @11:13AM (#308235)
Sadly the NSA and China are NOT strange bed fellows, and you don't need a lot imagination to see what's gone wrong with world.

For the clueless or tragically optimistic:

Fascism came out on top. Communism failed spectacularly, socialism and capitalism slowly give way to fascism.

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Re:The NSA Teams Up with the Chinese Government to Limit Int... by noonespecial on Thursday September 18, 2008 @11:37AM (#308254)
It seems like fascism is the default emergent state of people living together in large numbers. Democracy and liberty can be added to the system via careful thought and dedicated action on that insight. We seem to be in short supply of both.
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Re:The NSA Teams Up with the Chinese Government to Limit Int... by andreyf on Thursday September 18, 2008 @11:50AM (#308269)
Fascism came out on top. Communism failed spectacularly, socialism and capitalism slowly give way to fascism.

Don't be quite so certain... the last chapter has yet to be written. Sometimes things change quickly and dramatically.

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Re:The NSA Teams Up with the Chinese Government to Limit Int... by biohacker42 on Thursday September 18, 2008 @12:17PM (#308308)
Oh I know, I lived through the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe.

And I lived through the painful transition to market democracy... which is still on going, going, going, towards fascism.

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Re:The NSA Teams Up with the Chinese Government to Limit Int... by jrsims on Thursday September 18, 2008 @02:02PM (#308387)
What comes after fascism?
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Re:The NSA Teams Up with the Chinese Government to Limit Int... by biohacker42 on Thursday September 18, 2008 @02:12PM (#308400)
Crisis driven collapse & revolutionary reform which is a lot like flipping a coin and ending up with either a small democratic government or even more fascism.

If you end up with the first, you're still not safe as it tends to grow over time. Think of fascism as the highest entropy state of society.

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