Re:War-Fueled Global Hunger Catastrophe on the Way with Solu...
by kkfx on Saturday March 26, 2022 @01:18PM
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Try to analyze what you eat in an year and how much land is needed to produce it, then try to interpolate for a global population. Just count how much flower (as flower and as products made with it, from bread to biscuits) you consume in an year and how much grain, corn etc you need, with the relevant quantity of land needed. Than try to go the classic natural way, witch means manure and fertilizer derived from urine, compute how much cows, pigs, sheep etc you need both for milk, cheese, butter, meat and manure and so how much prairie/pasture you need.
Of course industry have made progress, nourishing cows with grains/cereals etc make them grow more, more quickly, taste better etc, irrigation make fields more productive just to stay basic, but most effective technique also pollute, especially those for agriculture than those for animal husbandry.
Yes, there is room to expand productions and ways to do so in less polluting manners, but there is a big issue in the middle: mass distribution is incompatible with a distributed farming model, witch means on one side some big&powerful bodies will fight against such move, and more practically that food prices will jump anyway and food variety will fall much since many long-distance imported products can't be imported at an acceptable cost without mass distribution.
In a way or another, even just for changing to a more sustainable system we face huger, and we the "westerns" face the little impact, populations of vast part of the world face far bigger disasters and very probably will not get them without reacting. Between them there are poor from central Asia that can't really do much but there are also big powers like China that desperately need food for an enormous population having a polluted and industrialized land + no fertile ground around to invade. They need to reach South America to find enough food, and South America is already a feud of USA who will not like having less big but still big food supply problems in the meantime South Americans do not like much nourish nor Chinese nor USA while starving... That means some kind of war, perhaps with proxies to avoid a full scale nuclear conflict, and actually war have side effects, one between them is crushing various productions, food included...
Of course industry have made progress, nourishing cows with grains/cereals etc make them grow more, more quickly, taste better etc, irrigation make fields more productive just to stay basic, but most effective technique also pollute, especially those for agriculture than those for animal husbandry.
Yes, there is room to expand productions and ways to do so in less polluting manners, but there is a big issue in the middle: mass distribution is incompatible with a distributed farming model, witch means on one side some big&powerful bodies will fight against such move, and more practically that food prices will jump anyway and food variety will fall much since many long-distance imported products can't be imported at an acceptable cost without mass distribution.
In a way or another, even just for changing to a more sustainable system we face huger, and we the "westerns" face the little impact, populations of vast part of the world face far bigger disasters and very probably will not get them without reacting. Between them there are poor from central Asia that can't really do much but there are also big powers like China that desperately need food for an enormous population having a polluted and industrialized land + no fertile ground around to invade. They need to reach South America to find enough food, and South America is already a feud of USA who will not like having less big but still big food supply problems in the meantime South Americans do not like much nourish nor Chinese nor USA while starving... That means some kind of war, perhaps with proxies to avoid a full scale nuclear conflict, and actually war have side effects, one between them is crushing various productions, food included...