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Re:Evaluation of science advice during the Covid-19 pandemic... by UrsaMedius on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:41AM (#30811702)
Population density (on a national scale) is not relevant. Sweden is an urbanized country, like most (all?) of the western world. More than 85% of Swedes live in urban environments: https://www.statista.com/statistics/455935/urbanization-in-s...
Re:Evaluation of science advice during the Covid-19 pandemic... by Retric on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:30AM (#30812118)
For disease transmission it’s the average population density of the population not the country. Effectively the population density of each area * population in that area divided by total population.

So, assuming 3 areas 1,000 square miles with 2,000 people, 100 square miles with 4,000 people and 10 square miles with 8,000 people you do : (2,000^2/1,000 + 4,000^2/100 + 8,000^2/10) / (2,000 + 4,000 + 8,000) = 468.8 people per square mile, not (2,000 + 4,000 + 8,000) / (1,000 + 100 + 10) = 12.6 people per square mile.

The reason is adding a huge area that nobody lived in (ex: 1 person across 1 million square miles) doesn’t change the calculation. (1^2/1,000,000 + 2,000^2/1,000 + 4,000^2/100 + 8,000^2/10) / (1+2,000 + 4,000 + 8,000) = 468.8 people per square mile

Re:Evaluation of science advice during the Covid-19 pandemic... by ModernMech on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:08AM (#30811903)
“Urban” Sweden is much different from other countries. For example, someone else urged us to compare Sweden to France. Yet Paris has a population density of 20000/km^2 versus Stockholm’s 4000/km^2. I’ve lived in places with both densities and one is considerably more “urban” than the other.
Re:Evaluation of science advice during the Covid-19 pandemic... by alkonaut on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:32AM (#30812138)
If you draw the border of Paris further and further out, I’m sure you can get the density as low as you want. Meaning: the density figure of a city says very little of how dense it is and says more about how far out into sparsely populated farmland the official city limit ends.

Go look at a Google street view of the far ends of Stockholm metro area…

Re:Evaluation of science advice during the Covid-19 pandemic... by Retric on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:38AM (#30812207)
Paris has a population density of 9,800/sq mi across 1,101.7 sq mi and an inner core of 53,000/sq mi across 40.7 sq mi.

Stockholm’s urban area of 11,000/sq mi across 147.35 sq mi, is comparable to Paris, but it’s inner core 73 sq mi is a much lower density 13,000/sq mi. Even if you assumed all those people lived in a 40 square mile “inner inner” core you still don’t get close to 53,000/sq mi.

Re:Evaluation of science advice during the Covid-19 pandemic... by alkonaut on Saturday March 26, 2022 @01:29PM (#30813637)
Is that land area or area including water?