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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by sokoloff on Saturday March 26, 2022 @08:55AM (#30811408)
That’s one of the appeals of infrastructure as code. For my own hobby work (where I might put down a project for months between serious work sessions, I often am that replacement). Some projects I have well enough structured or documented to pick right back inside of 30 minutes; others are more archeological in nature.
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by pid-1 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:06AM (#30811883)
Most software is hostile to IaC, unfortunately.

Even cloud providers, who have APIs for everything, will fuck up at making services that can be deployed as code in a sane way.

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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by sokoloff on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:16AM (#30811982)
If I’m being honest with myself, more of my side projects have a bin/publish script than are actually IaC.
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by maccard on Saturday March 26, 2022 @12:02PM (#30813021)
bin/publish.sh is better than remembering whether the service is on kubernetes, containers or a raw ec2 box, and "do I need to restart the service after update or just wait"
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by bezospen15 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @07:51PM (#30816421)
Lol you're overthinking it. We will just take a snapshot and call it a day
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by cersa8 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:11AM (#30811516)
I wish there was a statically typed version of Ansible. There is Pulumi but it's mostly tied to cloud API's and not Linux system administration (setting up HAProxy, NGINX, PostgreSQL, users)
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by edude03 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @10:37AM (#30812192)
Me too, though nix (https://nixos.org) and eventually nickel (https://nickel-lang.org) get you very close today.
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by baq on Saturday March 26, 2022 @12:30PM (#30813250)
Not exactly that, but definitely take a look: https://dhall-lang.org/
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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by nijave on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:18AM (#30811558)
I wish Ansible just had better data handling. Adding variable assignment plays and jamming things in Jinja is pretty clunky (if you want to, say, pull some data from a REST API and loop over a subset of the info)

You could always make an Ansible module but then there's the overhead to managing/installing that

Data wrangling can also make idempotent playbooks a bit clunky, too. You get into this 2-4 play "run check, reshape results, conditionally run play" pattern

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