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Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by jasonwatkinspdx on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:01PM (#30805308)
Working for a crypto startup can be a negative on your resume/CV as well.
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by ditonal on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:30PM (#30805563)
In the Hacker News bubble, working for anywhere is a negative on your CV. Amazon treats its warehouse employees badly, Google creates a surveillance state and bows to authoritarians, Facebook drives engagement with hate/dissent, AirBnB is causing a housing crisis by turning long term rentals into short term rentals, Apple has Chinese sweatshops, Netflix and Spotify run controversial content, Uber/Doordash/Lyft/Instacart exploit gig workers, etc.

In reality, practically nobody cares and most employers are more than happy to hire experienced engineers who happened to work at some employers who did sketchy things.

But, if we're going to drill down into the ethics of crypto startups, I think they come out looking pretty good in comparison.

It's worth noting that the author of this post works at Hubspot which literally had an entire book written about how its workplace culture was highly discriminatory, particularly against older workers.("Disrupted: My Misadventure in the Start-Up Bubble ")

Engineers in glass houses....

Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by detaro on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:31PM (#30805578)
The "hackernews bubble" is full of people literally working at all these companies, so I very much doubt that's in any way an accurate representation of the average communities opinions.
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by twblalock on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:35PM (#30805626)
Most people who work at those companies don't read or comment on HN.
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by detaro on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:38PM (#30805652)
And most people in the US also don't read or comment on HN, nevertheless HN is full of people from the US.
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by KarlKemp on Friday March 25, 2022 @05:54PM (#30807383)
I’m basically a Stalinist relative to the community here, but among those listed, only Uber and Facebook would fall into don’t-work-for-them-territory.

The others are regularly criticised to varying degrees, but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible to work there for people somewhat conscious of their conscience. It comes down to the question “can you honestly expect to have an impact on the organisation, or is it more likely to hollow you out and make you into another one of their cynical libertarian defenders?”

This happens to be exactly the same misunderstanding as calling all criticism “cancel culture”.

Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by phgn on Saturday March 26, 2022 @03:18AM (#30809947)
How much do engineers really have to do with the (bad) business of a company? Facebook has a high technical standard even if you question their societal impact, for Amazon I'd be concerned about the cliche backstabbing culture.

Disclaimer: I worked at Uber in the past

Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by jasonwatkinspdx on Saturday March 26, 2022 @03:44PM (#30814739)
People reacted to this pretty strongly so I'll elaborate what I mean.

I have multiple friends that have worked for major bitcoin/eth companies. You definitely know the names of these companies. My friends found themselves in exactly the situation I describe. Neither of them were "true believers" in the advocate sense. They just thought the technology was interesting, the team was good, etc.

But the problem is the loudest advocates in the crypto space are frankly, so insane, that even a vague signal you might be part of that group is a huge red flag for any business that is not all in on crypto. Hiring one of these people could be incredibly destructive to a team.

Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by phone8675309 on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:29PM (#30805561)
I would not hire anybody with a crypto startup on their resume.
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by trophycase on Friday March 25, 2022 @03:41PM (#30806311)
Former newspaper exec probably: "I would never hire someone who started out writing a blog"
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by phone8675309 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @11:20AM (#30812598)
I don’t think that’s quite equivalent unless all bloggers are somehow furthering a scam whereby they make the currently ultra-wealthy more ultra-wealthy at the expense of late-comers while also fueling the destruction of the environment through the intentional wasting of resources (proof of work).
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by galaxyLogic on Saturday March 26, 2022 @01:40AM (#30809523)
I would never join a club that allowed people like as its members - Groucho
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by twox2 on Friday March 25, 2022 @04:01PM (#30806488)
You might be surprised to learn that most of these people have no interest in working for you either.
Re:The Edited Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto by phone8675309 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @11:19AM (#30812576)
Good, looks like our interests align, so there should be no problem then.