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Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by sgjohnson on Thursday March 24, 2022 @03:11PM (#30794138)
It was not a $69k hospital bill. It was just $2500 for him.

But it sure does make a good headline.

Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by datavirtue on Thursday March 24, 2022 @03:16PM (#30794190)
It wasn't 69k either. That's the troll number the hospitals and insurance companies use to shock people and justify the actual high prices.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by mrguyorama on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:25PM (#30795527)
But when they send you that bill, it is a legally valid debt that you owe them.

The fact that you can negotiate large debts does not change that

Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by datavirtue on Friday March 25, 2022 @08:05PM (#30808135)
No, they mark it down as $69,000 and then show the "insurance negotiated" rate underneath. They do this regardless of whether or not you are paying out on of pocket. If you are uninsured they do the same thing but the discount is for "self pay" or whatever. It just seems kind of stupid but most people just see the insurance rate that applies to them when they are paying out of pocket in the deductible range. It's propaganda/manipulation.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by nanoservices on Thursday March 24, 2022 @03:17PM (#30794203)
Sure... Who is the hospital billing $69k to, the insurance? Also $2,500 is still a lot.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by sgjohnson on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:07PM (#30795356)
Nobody. Not even the insurance company paid that.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by telchior on Thursday March 24, 2022 @04:06PM (#30794720)
Not a completely unreasonable headline, considering that an uninsured person would get a bill for something probably closer to $69k than $2.5k. I've gotten one of those bills before, and IMO the insanity of it cannot be pointed out enough times.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by bpodgursky on Thursday March 24, 2022 @04:28PM (#30794962)
This is true and the system is incredibly wasteful and dumb, but to be clear those uninsured people would immediately negotiate it down to about $250 by calling and saying "wtf am I supposed to do with this bill".
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by telchior on Friday March 25, 2022 @01:20PM (#30804832)
No. What really happens is that the hospital does a check on whether the uninsured person has any assets.

If yes >> garnish the assets. This can include your business, your house, whatever you have.

If no >> ok they're poor, let's negotiate it down to the limit of what they can pay.

If they're really, really poor, it gets written off... and the other uninsured people bear the cost of that writeoff. That's one of the major reasons that the costs for uninsured people are so crazy; the hospital system is allowed to do that.

Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by olyjohn on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:26PM (#30795533)
Or they just put you on a payment plan for the rest of your life.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by deltaonefour on Thursday March 24, 2022 @06:03PM (#30795918)
Well where did that 69k number come from? Seems like the person at fault here is person that generated that ludicrous number that's completely BS.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by throwaway675309 on Thursday March 24, 2022 @04:12PM (#30794788)
Trivializing the cost as "just $2500" speaks more about your privilege than it does anything else.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by sgjohnson on Thursday March 24, 2022 @05:11PM (#30795385)
It has nothing to do with privilege or anything other than basic relativity. $2.5k is “just $2.5k” relative to $69k for everyone.
Re:YouTuber builds his own x-ray machine after $69k hospital... by legohead on Thursday March 24, 2022 @09:08PM (#30797624)
You can get an x-ray at urgent cares for around $75.