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Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by mccorrinall on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @09:50PM (#30773947)
Who is anthony? Does he appear in the podcasts? (I can’t listen to them rn)
Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by ehsankia on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @10:21PM (#30774117)
From the summary of the podcast:

> This is the story about the XBox hacking scene and how a group of guys pushed their luck a little too far.

Anthony (Clark) was one of said guys. Heavy spoilers ahead...

... He was convicted in 2016 for wire fraud related to EA FIFA coins. In 2017, he was found dead, awaiting sentencing.

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Jerrrry on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @12:35AM (#30774994)
Microsoft brags about "pwning" them to this day...in their own Terms of Service, in their enforcement blog posts, and other places.

per gentlemen's agreement (something the soulless, kakfa-esque fucks at M$ will never understand), I can't elaborate further...

but if you ever find a 0-day / bug, don't pursue a bug bounty.

They will put a bounty on you, and squash you like the bug.

Nintendo threatening modders legally is literal child's play compared to the literal mob tactics MS and Activision used against what they perceived as financial or PR threats.

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by roastedpeacock on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @06:06AM (#30776839)
> Nintendo threatening modders legally is literal child's play compared to the literal mob tactics MS and Activision used against what they perceived as financial or PR threats.

I am sure you are aware of what Sony did around 10 years ago to certain people regarding the PS3 and its exploits.

> but if you ever find a 0-day / bug, don't pursue a bug bounty.

It is still elementary days but there has been some controversy among researchers that in reality John Deere's bug-bounty program is being a PR stunt in order to cover up bugs and stall disclosure. So I guess people are slowly waking up to the reality of things not going their way.

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Dracophoenix on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @06:14AM (#30776886)
Nintendo hired PIs to stalk at least one known console modder[1]. I wouldn't say it's any better.

[1]https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/kl4fhi/nintendo_c...

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Jerrrry on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @10:07AM (#30778588)
That PI didn't pose as police and call our schools, and make shitty female profiles, and try to add us on facebook, though.
Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by colaclanth on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @08:54AM (#30777945)
refusing to elaborate your argument because of some vague "gentlemen's agreement" is a terrible idea. I dont suggest anyone listen to this guy's advice, trust me I would tell you why but I've made a promise and we pinky-sweared!
Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by notreallyserio on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @11:12AM (#30779280)
Not naming and shaming enables terrible people to do continue doing terrible things. I've never understood (unless there is an NDA, but sometimes even then..)
Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Jerrrry on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @03:02PM (#30782002)
"gentlemen's agreement" doesn't mean what most think.

it means an altruistic agreement where both parties have something to lose from either speaking/competing

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Jerrrry on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @02:40PM (#30781761)
I actually wanna correct myself here this as this direct implication is misleading.

MS has an agnostic stance on bug bounties.

some folks did some super illegal shit and got justice.

these things are unrelated

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by no_time on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @09:21AM (#30778179)
Companies don't give a damn about REAL laws if they can pay their way out, let alone 'gentleman's agreements'. You are personifying something that will take every chance it gets to screw you over if it's worth it.
Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Terry_Roll on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @03:19AM (#30775882)
> In 2017, he was found dead, awaiting sentencing.

So many legal methods to kill someone that is normalised & accepted by society.

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by roastedpeacock on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @06:06AM (#30776845)
Was it suicide or?
Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Jerrrry on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @10:08AM (#30778596)
after being informed that he will receive nothing short of all 40 lashes, anthony overdosed on sleeping medication.

the rest of the crew got 5+ years.

Re:Nintendo Switch prevents downgrades by irreparably blowin... by Jerrrry on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @02:37PM (#30781732)