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Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by jcromartie on Wednesday September 17, 2008 @04:33PM (#307499)
> I'm assuming their innocence until guilt is proven.

They are extortionists and vultures. Their business model is to buy cheap patents from people who just do pure research. Then they go and sue the pants off people who do real work and make a honest living by doing things that make real products.

So I don't know how you can say they need to be proven guilty when they plainly state what they are doing.

Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by aston on Wednesday September 17, 2008 @05:00PM (#307533)
Again, have they sued anyone? Has any company/institution they've dealt with actually been wronged?

And, as far as the patent buying goes, I don't really see a moral hazard with arbitrage. Either the market for patents is really inefficient and they're reaping rewards for exploiting that, or they're actually (gasp) providing a service to the market by connecting companies to institutions, and they're being compensated for it. Either way, I'm thumbs up on the enterprise.

Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by jcromartie on Wednesday September 17, 2008 @05:29PM (#307565)
They don't make money hand-over-fist by being nice. Licensing the patent is the first step. If a company doesn't agree to license, then the IP firm sues. So far they have gone after those with the deep pockets or insufficient intestinal fortitude it takes to pay up when these bastards come knocking.
Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by anamax on Wednesday September 17, 2008 @06:55PM (#307653)
> Their business model is to buy cheap patents from people who just do pure research. Then they go and sue the pants off people who do real work and make a honest living by doing things that make real products.

Doing pure research isn't making an honest living?

Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by jcromartie on Thursday September 18, 2008 @08:57AM (#308131)
People doing research make news. These guys make money. Let me know when you've heard of one of their groundbreaking discoveries that wasn't simply purchased from some professor somewhere.
Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by anamax on Thursday September 18, 2008 @03:10PM (#308452)
Why is it bad to make money off of something purchased from a professor?

After all, if one can't make money off of a thing purchased from a professor, there's no reason to buy said thing from a professor. Is it wrong for professors to make money from what they invent? In many cases, the school also makes money. Is that wrong?

Or, is it just wrong for middlemen to buy and resell? In other words, professors should only license to end users.

Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by Hexstream on Wednesday September 17, 2008 @10:20PM (#307794)
No, it's being an extortionist and a vulture that isn't.
Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by anamax on Thursday September 18, 2008 @03:03PM (#308443)
What is an acceptable way for a pure researcher to make money?

Note that you've already excluded "publish your invention and charge other people to use it".

Re:Nathan Myhrvold’s Patent Extortion Fund Is Reaping Hundre... by Hexstream on Thursday September 18, 2008 @04:45PM (#308564)
... this is getting confusing. Isn't Intellectual Ventures your run-of-the-mill patent troll? Don't invent anything worthwhile, acquire patents, sue companies that get stuff done?...