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Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by bilekas on Saturday March 19, 2022 @11:12AM (#30734387)
This is the first time I've heard this argument. Can you point out what you mean exactly?
Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by adh636 on Saturday March 19, 2022 @11:15AM (#30734416)
Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by Capira on Saturday March 19, 2022 @11:18AM (#30734448)
Bitcoin makes renewable energy sources more profitable [1], and it targets the hidden cost of the petrodollar [2].

[1] https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/10/11/bitcoin-mining-is... [2] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/the-hidden-costs-of-the-...

Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by woodruffw on Saturday March 19, 2022 @11:30AM (#30734555)
The argument in the first article isn’t compelling: we have direct evidence of Bitcoin miners exploiting the diminishing profitability of coal plants to buy them on the cheap and reopen them solely for mining. Similarly for any non-renewable source: the traditional demand slump for each will encourage miners to pick up the slack, rather than investing in renewables.

And even this is, on its face, a ridiculous end goal: we should be building renewable sources of power to replace our societies’ needs, not to supplant them with cryptocurrency.

Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by Capira on Saturday March 19, 2022 @12:42PM (#30735248)
A lot of renewable energy is wasted because it is produced at the wrong time or/and at the wrong place. Bitcoin pays a base price for such excess energy. Anywhere. Anytime.
Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by woodruffw on Saturday March 19, 2022 @12:54PM (#30735378)
This again isn't compelling: it's not clear how the solution to "wasted" (read: lost opportunity) renewables is to actually waste them by cracking hashes.

(It also undermines the original point of the article: what incentive do bitcoin miners have to make renewables more available, if they can just pack up their rigs and move to wherever energy is cheapest? Mining incentivizes short-span access, not the kind of massive distribution grids that we actually need to make renewable energy sustainable and reliable.)

Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by majinuub on Saturday March 19, 2022 @01:07PM (#30735492)
I'll repeat what I said in another comment here:

What's valuable is purely subjective. That's what makes markets work. Its also why planning economies from the top down doesn't work. What seems like wasted energy or capital to you is very useful to another person. Many people (myself included) believe that a decentralized, digital, hard money that is tied to the real world through energy is extremely important. So to those people its not a waste of energy, far from it.

Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by woodruffw on Saturday March 19, 2022 @01:28PM (#30735677)
"What's valuable is purely subjective" is the kind of basal argument that nobody finds convincing. It's also a far cry from a justification for wasting energy, unless you plan to take an excursion into the lands of moral relativism.

Here is my opinion: it is entirely possible, common even, for people to be just plain wrong about the things that they value. That doesn't mean they don't value them; it means that their underlying justification is predicated on transient conditions (like artificial scarcity) or is otherwise underdeveloped w/r/t to their motivations. Bitcoin epitomizes this.

Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by aqme28 on Saturday March 19, 2022 @11:26AM (#30734523)
I don't buy this argument. It's a massive consumer of energy, so of course it makes renewables more profitable. It makes all energy more profitable.
Re:A Bitcoin Mine at a Natural Gas Well in Texas by CodeShmode on Sunday March 20, 2022 @06:45AM (#30741601)
I guess the argument would be that it has a greater impact on the profitability of intermittent energy sources as it can stabilize the grid by soaking up cheap off-peak power. Not sure if I buy it either.