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Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by Nextgrid on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:23PM (#30729919)
> you can memorize your wallet seed words and recreate your wallet on the other side of a border

Governments can trivially prevent this if they wanted to. Bringing your wallet along will be of no use if nobody dares to transact with you because they themselves will then need to explain the source of their newfound wealth.

The current ability of crypto to (sometimes) escape government oversight is temporary and only exists because it's currently a rounding error in the grand scheme of things, but I can guarantee you it will be cracked down on.

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by fossuser on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:28PM (#30729960)
A United world government could non-trivially prevent this (though enforcement would still be difficult at the individual level). We don’t have that though, and in practice today it’s useful in order to escape authoritarian dictatorships.

The specific case I read about was someone escaping the Russian occupied areas of Ukraine this way: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tatianakoffman/2020/06/13/why-b...

It’s also more common in countries with bad currencies and limited access to USD (Venezuela).

You’re right it’s not perfect, but it gives more power to individuals than the alternatives. It’s also possible something like Zcash could allow individuals to transact despite an all seeing panopticon, but I don’t know how that works well enough to have a strong opinion.

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by TomSwirly on Saturday March 19, 2022 @08:18AM (#30733172)
> in practice today it’s useful in order to escape authoritarian dictatorships.

Or in fact, any financial law by any government. And yet if you say a major application of crypto is crime everyone gets all hurt...

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by derangedHorse on Saturday March 19, 2022 @09:28AM (#30733539)
Crime is relative so to say a major application of crypto is "crime" isn't necessarily a bad thing. I've seen a Russian commentator in another thread claiming to commit the "crime" of donating Bitcoin to Ukraine (while still being in Russia). I'm sure those of us in the Western world wouldn't have any big moral objections to that.

That being said, most studies point to the conclusion that the major application of Bitcoin at least is not crime:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/haileylennon/2021/01/19/the-fal...

https://cryptoforinnovation.org/resources/Analysis_of_Bitcoi... (by Michael Morell, former Acting Director, Deputy Director and Director of Intelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA))

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by rvz on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:30PM (#30729971)
> The current ability of crypto to (sometimes) escape government oversight is temporary and only exists because it's currently a rounding error in the grand scheme of things, but I can guarantee you it will be cracked down on.

Indeed. By regulating the transparent cryptocurrencies and banning privacy coins from exchanges like Monero and MobileCoin which is how the criminals and scammers cash out their ransomware money into fiat currencies.

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by sschueller on Saturday March 19, 2022 @09:22AM (#30733515)
The idea is that you don't need to convert to fiat. Everything you buy would be via crypt. Like cash. You don't know if the cash someone uses is stolen and no one cares.