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Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by moistly on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:26PM (#30729487)
Search isn’t Google’s moneymaker, advertising is. And those shitty SEO’d sites are choc-a-bloc with advertising. Google has little incentive to downrank them.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by Nextgrid on Saturday March 19, 2022 @12:08AM (#30730901)
Google can trivially reduce the amount of spam by using the amount of ads, analytics, affiliate links, etc as a negative ranking signal.

Instead of targeting SEO per-se (as it's difficult to determine a good website with SEO vs a spam website with SEO), target how they're making money.

They're not doing so exactly because they have no incentive.

Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by petra on Saturday March 19, 2022 @07:45AM (#30733014)
What incentives do they have to promote affiliate links to Amazon ?

It's a bit more complicated than that. Even useful sites in commercially related niches use affiliate links as a source of revenue.

Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by Nextgrid on Sunday March 20, 2022 @05:23AM (#30741268)
I’m not saying they promote them explicitly. I’m arguing that they should downrank them because it’s a likely indicator of spam - there’s a lot of spam websites out there which are just bullshit listicles or fake review websites whose primary objective is to get you to buy through their affiliated link. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s software out there that can churn out and update these websites automatically. Google has no incentive to downrank these though because those spam websites also often contain Google analytics or ads.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by Program_Install on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:38PM (#30730020)
Search is their main gateway to the advertising dollars. "Google it" is synonymous with any search regardless of the engine being used.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by makeitdouble on Saturday March 19, 2022 @10:52AM (#30734206)
Wouldn’t in-app advertisement be at least on par, probably higher in usage ?
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by moistly on Friday March 18, 2022 @11:33PM (#30730729)
They serve ads regardless how you get to the site you’re viewing.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by ornornor on Saturday March 19, 2022 @01:26AM (#30731357)
They serve more ads if they steer you towards the low value SEO website filled with Adsense.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by moistly on Saturday March 19, 2022 @02:10AM (#30731559)
That is precisely my original point.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by asiachick on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:46PM (#30729644)
Google loses if people stop using it. Google has every incentive to downrank them.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by glenstein on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:20PM (#30729902)
Google has incentives to degrade the quality of search results for the benefit of its profitability, up to the extent that is able to without turning away too many users.

I think it's more like that rather than an either/or.

Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by not2b on Friday March 18, 2022 @10:12PM (#30730251)
They have competition: if we get to the point where Bing/DuckDuckGo results are clearly better, people will start moving, and that will hurt their revenue badly.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by skinnymuch on Friday March 18, 2022 @11:07PM (#30730572)
Yes and those results don’t have to be just better. They have to be clearly better as you stated. The likliehood of that happening any time soon is close to zero.

I personally use Bing for 95% of my searches and have done so since it launched. Or re-launched.

Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by bencollier49 on Saturday March 19, 2022 @03:59AM (#30732052)
I switched precisely because I found that the DuckDuckGo results were indeed better. This was a third attempt though - the first two times it wasn't quite good enough. It improved, and Google got worse.
Re:If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it? by temp20160423 on Saturday March 19, 2022 @01:59AM (#30731517)
This makes no sense. Google makes more money when users click on some crappy landing page filled with display ads?