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Re:Alexandria Search by amelius on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:00PM (#30726827)
> I'm curious how people evaluate them quickly.

Are there search benchmarks to be found somewhere?

There must be. If you want to write a search engine, you need a way to validate the results.

Re:Alexandria Search by jll29 on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:56PM (#30727416)
The "Web track" task at the annual US NIST TREC conference ( https://trec.nist.gov/ ) is an open innovation benchmark that everyone can contribute; participants get a set of queries that they have to run on exactly the same corpus. Then they return the top-k results to a team that evaluates them.

Here is an example (2014) Web track paper of the 23th TREC: https://trec.nist.gov/pubs/trec23/papers/overview-web.pdf (TREC has a plentitude of difference benchmark tasks and you can submit your own: https://trec.nist.gov/pubs/trec29/trec2020.html - recent TREC 2020 papers)

Re:Alexandria Search by vivekraghunatha on Saturday March 19, 2022 @02:28PM (#30736328)
(Founder of Neeva) Eval for search engines is about as hard as ranking for search engines. You need rating templates, raters, querysets, tooling and lots of time and patience. There are a number of vendors who can help you with the raters part, but the rest is still painstaking work you have to do yourself. Email me if you need help; we are happy to share findings.
Re:Alexandria Search by marginalia_nu on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:25PM (#30727070)
There are benchmarks within the adjacent field of information retrieval, but in general it's hard to properly validate a search engine because real data is so noisy and misbehaved, and sample data is so different from real data.
Re:Alexandria Search by kreeben on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:30PM (#30727123)
Sure, the problem of information retrieval is not exactly that of web search but they're pretty close. So, from such a knowledgeable person such as yourself, when it comes to this topic, could you remind us, what are some of those benchmarks?
Re:Alexandria Search by marginalia_nu on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:33PM (#30727155)
Re:Alexandria Search by kreeben on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:34PM (#30727170)
>> Precision and recall

The phrase I was looking for. Thx a bunch! Gonna marginalia that now.

Re:Alexandria Search by marginalia_nu on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:47PM (#30727314)
Haha, ironically it lacks both precision and recall for that topic.