.Net Developer Shortage

Re:.Net Developer Shortage by euroclydon on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @01:29PM (#3071918)

Part of the problem, for these .NET and Java jobs, is the job itself, not necessarily the pay. I get a half dozen calls per week for crappy internal .NET SharePointy positions at near the same salary I'm making. I wouldn't want to do those jobs for 150% of the salary.

Folks that like to program, usually don't like to write back office apps.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by patio11 on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @02:56PM (#3072311)

There is probably a number at which you or I would write back office apps, though. People don't do I-banking out of love, and there is a lot of headroom between well-paid devs and them.

I kinda like my job right now but for a million bucks I'd kinda like your Sharepoint installation, too.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by ghurlman on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @01:39PM (#3071954)

That's part of the problem... a good chunk of the .Net shortage is a SharePoint developer shortage... real, actual developers, not draggy-droppy ones.

Developers with a good head on their shoulders can get 6 figures easy doing SharePoint... but who in God's name would want to?

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by gamble on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @04:30PM (#3072767)

I was hired as a C# programmer once, only to find out that they'd lied to me about the nature of the position and I would actually be working with SharePoint. I threatened to quit unless they gave me the job originally advertised.

Then the hiring manager bitched to me that all of the programmers they hired quit when they found out the job actually involved Sharepoint!

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by rmc on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @04:58AM (#3074854)

the hiring manager bitched to me that all of the programmers they hired quit

It's always funny when you hear someone complain that "everyone I've worked with in field X is an asshole" or "All the clients I have are assholes", etc. Pretty soon it's likely that you, not your clients, are the asshole.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by mgutz on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @01:48PM (#3071995)

Heck, I took a big pay cut to be happier. I was a .NET enterprise developer in the six figures.

There is something about building things outside the box instead of being part of an assembly line at corporate shops. The lack of politics and endless meetings is a bonus too. It's not always about the money.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by dos1 on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @02:10PM (#3072100)

This thread is indicative of the bias I see on HN. .Net and Java are "uncool" and therefore must not be suited for solving real world problems or doing interesting things. They are also often synonymous with bloated corporate bureaucracies and meetings. By these same stereotypes, should I assume that every Ruby developer is living in a party house with his 4 other co-founders, eating ramen and making social networking applications?

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by droithomme on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @03:10PM (#3072394)

It's not bias, it's just a realistic observation of the market forces at work. People are willing to put up with bureaucracy and dull projects for more pay. There is no shortage of talent, there is merely an abundance of employers who are not realistic about market rates.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by phillmv on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @03:18PM (#3072447)

Until recently those were the only situations in which you could get a job as a Ruby developer – hamming it out on your own, in a small startup or at a consultancy.

It's still hard to get an Enterprise job as a Ruby developer.

Hence the stereotype.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by euroclydon on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @02:22PM (#3072156)

Wrong. Four words: "Nature of the work"

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by georgieporgie on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @02:38PM (#3072209)

.Net and Java are "uncool"

I think he was saying that the typical Enterprise jobs are uncool, not that .Net is necessarily so.

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Re:.Net Developer Shortage by hello_moto on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @12:09AM (#3074161)

Me.

I'd take 6 figures of SP and develop WebParts (and will sell them).

It's a very good niche business. Just like what Wordpress used to be (or Drupal).

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