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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by chiefalchemist on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @12:38PM (#30687447)
Worse? Intel obtaibed at the torture extreme is simply not reliable. The cultural need - at the elites' level - to "break" the opposition is disturbing. And yes,ultimately this manifests in the broader culture. If for no other reason, the elites have become normalized to The Culture of Violence and see no reason to change course. Their power remains safe and intact.
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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by tiahura on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @01:42PM (#30688399)
Intel obtaibed at the torture extreme is simply not reliable.

Besides a few anecdotes, how many torture debriefings have you read and then cross checked?

Unless you’re in the industry, how could you possibly think you have an informed opinion on methods of intelligence gathering?

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by formerly_proven on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @02:26PM (#30689002)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panetta_Review

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_...

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by l33t2328 on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @02:02PM (#30688694)
Well, there was a long report about it that came to that conclusion, so
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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by chiefalchemist on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @02:39PM (#30689185)
You call Torture an industry? Like what, tech manufacturing? That's disturbing.

While the myth about Tprture's (lack of) effectiveness persists?

The idea that being an "industry" insider is necessary to understand Human Psychology 101 is also misinformation.

These ideas come from the NSA, CIA, etc. It doesn't mean they're true. It doesn't mean we have to buy them.

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by boomboomsubban on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:48PM (#30690508)
Sadly, torture is an industry. Much like so many other aspects of our intelligence agencies, the job is often done by third party contractors.

The most famous is Mitchell Jessen and Associates, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Elmer_Mitchell#Work_as_a... , but it's not the only one. Margot Williams published articles about an airline company used to send people to black sites across the world.

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Re:CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach ... by worik on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @02:56PM (#30689462)
> You call Torture an industry? Like what, tech manufacturing? That's disturbing.

In rouge states it is.

Just saying....

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