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Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by pc86 on Sunday March 13, 2022 @05:36PM (#30665967)
Making a profit, even a large one, is not in and of itself a scam.
Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by CRConrad on Monday March 14, 2022 @04:59PM (#30678233)
AFAICS making a profit without providing an equitably commensurate value in return, as consideration for the payment the profit comes from, is the very definition of a scam.
Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by pc86 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @10:58AM (#30699619)
Trying to make the math easy, if official parts cost $80 to produce due to licensing or whatever, and are sold for $100, is it necessarily a scam if you can produce functionally similar parts without the licensing concerns for, say, $10, but charge $90 for them?

Huge profit margin, but you're able to produce much more cheaply than a competitor. Some would say you earned that margin, and in a fair and open market if someone else can also produce them for $10 you'll see prices start falling quickly. If they can't, I don't see how it's a "scam" for you to make money in that scenario.

Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by goodpoint on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @11:53AM (#30700357)
> fair and open market

Again the same strawman. There is nothing "fair and open" in price gauging replacement parts in a market where buyers cannot compare quality, reliability, durability and TCO across products, replacement parts, repair services and guarantees.

Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by goodpoint on Sunday March 13, 2022 @07:07PM (#30666671)
Nice strawman there.
Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by pc86 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @10:55AM (#30699582)
> Differences beyond 2x are still a clear indication that official replacement parts are a scam.

How are you not saying that they're making too much money and it's therefore "a clear indication" that it's a scam?

I'd love to be told why I'm wrong rather than just "hurr durr strawman"

Re:EU to make it mandatory to use customer-replaceable batte... by goodpoint on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @11:07AM (#30699715)
Read my message again and read your reply again then.

Selling replacement parts with an unreasonable markup is a form of bait and switch: the customer buys the product thinking that it will have a given TCO over its lifetime. Only after some time the customer learns that the TCO is much higher when a replacement is needed.

You twisted my words by claiming that making a profit is not a scam.