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Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by nicoburns on Saturday March 12, 2022 @12:27PM (#30652988)
Maybe I was just unlucky, but that isn't my retroactive judgement on my childhood at all. My experience was one of mostly adults making me do something that is really down to subjective preference because that was their preference. And now that I'm an adult and can make my own choices I'm much happier about it.
Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by ghostpepper on Saturday March 12, 2022 @12:51PM (#30653211)
If a rational and emotionally mature adult still believes that the decisions their parents made were bad then there’s a much higher chance that they’re correct (compared to when a kid believes such things)
Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by mwcremer on Saturday March 12, 2022 @02:43PM (#30654244)
Especially in like circumstances; that is, with regard to their own children.
Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by plandis on Saturday March 12, 2022 @02:23PM (#30654036)
I’ve recently become a new father and have listening to a Cat Stevens song that your post reminded me of:

“If they were right, I’d agree, But it’s them they know, not me.”

Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by kikimora on Saturday March 12, 2022 @03:53PM (#30654784)
I think is how it is supposed to be - parents making decisions for their kids using their best judgement (preferences). It is ok for kids to disagree when they grow. It is less ok to make a problem out of it. Most parents really try hard to make rational decisions using information and background they have. Criticizing them for making mistakes does not make sense to me. We all humans and we make mistakes.
Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by pdonis on Saturday March 12, 2022 @07:34PM (#30656633)
> I think is how it is supposed to be - parents making decisions for their kids using their best judgement

Yes.

> (preferences).

No. The parent is supposed to use their best judgment about what is best for the kid given the kid's reasonable long-term preferences [1]--not the parent's preferences. Or, to put it another way, what is best for the actual kid, not what would be best for the parents if they were in the kid's position. The two are often very different.

[1] I say "reasonable long-term preferences" to make it clear that I am not saying parents should indulge a kid's preferences for sugary foods instead of nutritious ones, lots of TV instead of a better mix of intellectual activities, and no exercise. I'm talking about cases where the adult the kid will grow up to be will genuinely say they are different from the parents in this respect and wish their preferences as a kid had been respected.

Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by kikimora on Sunday March 13, 2022 @04:38AM (#30659231)
I think we are on the same page. A parent has a mental model of the world and the kid inside it. Based on this model the parent makes projections and take actions. The problem is this mental model which never the same between the parent and the kid.

> Or, to put it another way, what is best for the actual kid, not what would be best for the parents if they were in the kid's position.

Most parents act in the best interest of a kid, not themselves. The outcome varies because parents model of the world usually flawed in many ways and they actually make bad decision thinking they have made good ones. E.g. my friend is obsessed with pre-school development. This is likely because she perceive herself as not smart and wants her son to be smart. She force her son to exercise, he can read and do some math at the age of 3. Long term this is bad for the kid. Unfortunately she cannot realize this. Doing so would require a level of knowledge and self-awareness she does not have. I her eyes she makes perfect decisions.

Re:Teaching is a slow process of becoming everything you hate by pdonis on Sunday March 13, 2022 @04:56PM (#30665615)
> She force her son to exercise, he can read and do some math at the age of 3. Long term this is bad for the kid.

Why? I was exercising, reading, and doing some (very simple) math at age 3, and I turned out ok.