Re:Intel Finds Bug in AMD's Spectre Mitigation – AMD Issues Fix
by nyanpasu64 on Saturday March 12, 2022 @09:46AM
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The page now [EDIT: as of writing] points to a 404, and has been excluded from the Wayback Machine. However, it's still in Google Cache, which I've saved to https://web.archive.org/web/20220312144415/https://webcache..... The article might've been retracted for a reason though, IDK.
Jokes aside - I understand the difficulty to adequately defend against meltdown/spectre. When the exploits were released I was running a service which definitely needed protection from this type of attack. Ironically we had just finished a set of optimizations that would have reduced our cpu costs quite nicely, the mitigations ate all those wins and more.
I guess I'm still bitter - I no longer own that system but it really frustrated me to hear that it apparently was still vulnerable to spectre style attacks.
Re:Intel Finds Bug in AMD's Spectre Mitigation – AMD Issues Fix
by landemva on Saturday March 12, 2022 @03:22PM
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That works on bare metal you control. If you rent something with VM / hypervisor the mitigations are important to protect from other VMs on the machine.
Re:Intel Finds Bug in AMD's Spectre Mitigation – AMD Issues Fix
by TillE on Saturday March 12, 2022 @02:01PM
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Right, I'm not sure Spectre is worth worrying about outside of big multi-user systems, or a web browser executing Javascript. Otherwise if you're executing untrusted code, you're in big trouble regardless.
Re:Intel Finds Bug in AMD's Spectre Mitigation – AMD Issues Fix
by flatiron on Saturday March 12, 2022 @09:51AM
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In the article they explain it. People nudged intel to mitigate spectre like AMD. They looked into how they did it to learn more and found some flaws and responsibly disclosed them.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-amd-spectre-v2-vulne...>
Opens fine for me here?
Must be a day ending in y.
Jokes aside - I understand the difficulty to adequately defend against meltdown/spectre. When the exploits were released I was running a service which definitely needed protection from this type of attack. Ironically we had just finished a set of optimizations that would have reduced our cpu costs quite nicely, the mitigations ate all those wins and more.
I guess I'm still bitter - I no longer own that system but it really frustrated me to hear that it apparently was still vulnerable to spectre style attacks.
At least you still have a relative advantage: if you had not optimized, the CPU costs would have increased even more.
they don't run arbitrary untrusted code and send a LOT of packets, those mitigations really hurt
I'm curious, what options did you disable?
We did it for most of our GCP images