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Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by __init on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @06:47PM (#30621505)
Great to hear that Intel is finally competitive in this space again. If process improvements are coming on time (and they are, if Pat is to be believed), perhaps Intel can finally compete in low-power, high-perf versus M1.
Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by nicoburns on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @06:55PM (#30621575)
Yeah, regardless of whose chips are fastest, it's really fantastic how closely competitive they all are currently. You can pick Intel or AMD or Apple, and have a fantastic CPU (and likely a decent iGPU too) whichever one you choose.
Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by selfhoster11 on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:14PM (#30622109)
Disposable CPU sockets aren't exactly great. I don't care whose chips are faster if I have to throw out my motherboard alongside my CPU if I want more performance.
Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by nomel on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:27PM (#30622207)
After seeing the lifespan of AM4, and how cheap upgrading was, this is exactly why my next upgrade will be whatever fits in an AM5 socket.
Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by archi42 on Thursday March 10, 2022 @08:45AM (#30626794)
The Ryzen 5 1600 is nearly 5 years old (Apr 2017), and the current 5600X is a little older than 1 year (Nov 2020). The 5800X refresh (X3D) is announced for Q2 2022.

Now that's still a matter of perspective. If you got an early low-end CPU like a 1600 or even a 1600AF (got mine Jan 2020) and can now upgrade to a more recent, more high-end CPU like e.g. a 5600X or even 5900X the jump is pretty nice - and you get to keep your old board+RAM. Depending on your future computational requirements that system could be useful for quite a while. If you jump on that 5000-series CPU coming from something like Ivy Bridge, you'll still be able to use the system for the same time, but you will only have used the MoBo+RAM for a single generation. In that case the total amount of usefulness you get for your money is less, and you might be better off waiting for the upcoming socket.

Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by amelius on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @07:21PM (#30621753)
> it's really fantastic how closely competitive they all are currently

Which says basically that most of these gains are more likely to come from fabrication technology, not architecture.

Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by uluyol on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @07:37PM (#30621869)
Or that they all employ similarly effective techniques.
Re:The Intel Core I3-12300 Review: Quad-Core Alder Lake Shines by aseipp on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:43PM (#30622307)
No it doesn't.