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Re:Elementary OS is imploding by orestarod on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:59PM (#30618597)
Doesn't gender lose its meaning if it's not tied to sex? As in, it is just a person's psych? I am not saying it negatively, I am all for sex having no predetermined effect on someone's behavior. But if there as many genders as there are people, it is no longer a useful term.
Re:Elementary OS is imploding by DoctorOW on Thursday March 10, 2022 @02:08AM (#30623935)
> Doesn't gender lose its meaning if it's not tied to sex? As in, it is just a person's psych?

What do you mean by "sex"? Would a woman who goes through menopause no longer be a woman because she's not fertile? What about someone born intersex with multiple or no recognizable genitals? What about a woman with a Y Chromosome? That's not hypothetical it's recognized by actual biologists. The reason it's under diagnosed is because it rarely shows symptoms so it's only something someone already taking a DNA test would find out.

Fun fact though, when you meet someone, you forgo the strip search, DNA test, and ultrasound required to actually verify these things. Not only is gender not based on sex, YOU don't base your evaluation of it on sex. Instead you've picked a number of unrelated arbitrary qualities, which is what scientists and I call "dumb". If we're assigning genders willy nilly why should you be in charge of everyone? Let everyone pick for themselves.

Re:Elementary OS is imploding by orestarod on Thursday March 10, 2022 @09:58AM (#30627605)
You seem to be putting a lot in my mouth on your own.

Let me ask you a question to clarify things: Is ANY gender based in ANY way on the sexual organs (and thus the biologically assigned sex) of ANY human?

Re:Elementary OS is imploding by DoctorOW on Thursday March 10, 2022 @05:02PM (#30633069)
> You seem to be putting a lot in my mouth on your own.

That's okay. I'm peering through the internet and into your mind.

> Is ANY gender based in ANY way on the sexual organs (and thus the biologically assigned sex) of ANY human?

Nope. See my above statements for proof.

Re:Elementary OS is imploding by orestarod on Thursday March 10, 2022 @06:35PM (#30634125)
Nice. Since the answer is "Nope", here comes my point: What IS the meaning of gender anyway? Shouldn't we rather call each human's "gender" their unique personality instead? Since that's what it actually is? What is the meaning of saying "My gender is woman"? What IS a woman? In the past "woman" was tied to the reproductory organ. Since it no longer is, well... let's get rid of the notion altogether. It only serves to put labels on personalities, and these labels themselves are based on ancient obsolete ideas.
Re:Elementary OS is imploding by DoctorOW on Thursday March 10, 2022 @08:38PM (#30635116)
> In the past "woman" was tied to the reproductory organ.

At what point did everyone stop strip searching people and inspecting their reproductive organs? Must have been before I was born.

Re:Elementary OS is imploding by orestarod on Friday March 11, 2022 @04:15AM (#30637902)
That's ingenious, because everyone did not bother strip searching since they made their explicit conclusions about what was between your legs by the external appearance and behavior alone :)
Re:Elementary OS is imploding by pell on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @06:26PM (#30621353)
According to the theory, gender and biological sex are not inherently tied to each other. You might enjoy reading this essay if you are interested in learning more about this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/02/18/typical-mind-and-gende...